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Pick Axe 07-03-2004 02:22 PM

Speeding Tickets.......
 
I have this friend in Austraila, and He just told me about the ticket system there. He said they fine you based on your ability to pay. ie...Bill Gates goes 5 over, gets hammered for 5 mil, poor guy go 30 over, pays $100. I don't know, it kinda makes sense, but seems too overdone to me. What do yall think????

Snuff 07-03-2004 02:26 PM

I don't think one person should be more penalized for breaking the same law just because they have more $$. Everyone kows the traffic laws and everyone decides for themselves if they are willing to risk a ticket. If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime.

newt. 07-03-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Snuff
I don't think one person should be more penalized for breaking the same law just because they have more $$. Everyone kows the traffic laws and everyone decides for themselves if they are willing to risk a ticket. If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime.

and if you can do it many a time. oOo:

[GDC]_Polemarcus 07-03-2004 02:30 PM

Same thing on the autobahn in germany. One guy got fined 100,000 bucks for tailgating

Snuff 07-03-2004 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Snuff
I don't think one person should be more penalized for breaking the same law just because they have more $$. Everyone kows the traffic laws and everyone decides for themselves if they are willing to risk a ticket. If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime.

and if you can do it many a time. oOo:[/quote:4df19]

Yeah but insurance will start biting them in the ass spank:

Pyro 07-03-2004 03:06 PM

Stupid way to go about it. Looks like a big money grab to me.

Eight Ace 07-03-2004 03:55 PM

That system is in parts of the Netherlands, not Australia.

07-03-2004 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Stupid way to go about it. Looks like a big money grab to me.

not really; $100 for a pro athlete or CEO is not the same as $100 for me (college student); so in fact you aren't punishing people equally for breaking the same law if they pay the same amount of money, rather a percentage is a more logical deterrent

Pyro 07-03-2004 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro
Stupid way to go about it. Looks like a big money grab to me.

not really; $100 for a pro athlete or CEO is not the same as $100 for me (college student); so in fact you aren't punishing people equally for breaking the same law if they pay the same amount of money, rather a percentage is a more logical deterrent[/quote:8ca97]

I'd be mad about a $100 ticket if I had $200 in my bank account or $2000.

Fireal 07-03-2004 04:52 PM

[quote=Pyro]
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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":94d10
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Stupid way to go about it. Looks like a big money grab to me.

not really; $100 for a pro athlete or CEO is not the same as $100 for me (college student); so in fact you aren't punishing people equally for breaking the same law if they pay the same amount of money, rather a percentage is a more logical deterrent

I'd be mad about a $100 ticket if I had $200 in my bank account or $2000.[/quote:94d10]

Even if you were a pro athlete making 20 mil a year?

Pyro 07-03-2004 04:54 PM

[quote=Fireal]
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":7cfa9
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Stupid way to go about it. Looks like a big money grab to me.

not really; $100 for a pro athlete or CEO is not the same as $100 for me (college student); so in fact you aren't punishing people equally for breaking the same law if they pay the same amount of money, rather a percentage is a more logical deterrent

I'd be mad about a $100 ticket if I had $200 in my bank account or $2000.

Even if you were a pro athlete making 20 mil a year?[/quote:7cfa9]

Still. So you're saying if bill Gates murdered someone he should get life in prison, but if someone making 25 grand a year does it he should get what community service. It is all the same reasonings behind it.

Himmler 07-03-2004 05:27 PM

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":c17a8]Same thing on the autobahn in germany. One guy got fined 100,000 bucks for tailgating[/quote:c17a8]

wow. thats a whole years worth of work for alot of people, 2 years for even more people.

07-03-2004 05:32 PM

[quote=Pyro]
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Originally Posted by Fireal
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":453c5
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Stupid way to go about it. Looks like a big money grab to me.

not really; $100 for a pro athlete or CEO is not the same as $100 for me (college student); so in fact you aren't punishing people equally for breaking the same law if they pay the same amount of money, rather a percentage is a more logical deterrent

I'd be mad about a $100 ticket if I had $200 in my bank account or $2000.

Even if you were a pro athlete making 20 mil a year?

Still. So you're saying if bill Gates murdered someone he should get life in prison, but if someone making 25 grand a year does it he should get what community service. It is all the same reasonings behind it.[/quote:453c5]

that's different, being incarcerated is equally tough for anyone, it don't matter if you're rich or poor; but a monetary fine's impact on a person is inversly proportional to their salary.

Mr.Buttocks 07-04-2004 05:26 AM

Ban cars.

Short Hand 07-04-2004 05:50 AM

omfgomfg !!!!!!!!!!

Mr.Buttocks 07-04-2004 06:09 AM

[quote="Short Hand":65024]omfgomfg !!!!!!!!!![/quote:65024]

Calm down woman! *SLAP*

SoLiDUS 07-04-2004 08:08 AM

Re: Speeding Tickets.......
 
[quote="Pick Axe":cf75f]I have this friend in Austraila, and He just told me about the ticket system there. He said they fine you based on your ability to pay. ie...Bill Gates goes 5 over, gets hammered for 5 mil, poor guy go 30 over, pays $100. I don't know, it kinda makes sense, but seems too overdone to me. What do yall think????[/quote:cf75f]

Horribly subjective, biased system: why should my punishment be harder
than that of another individual's because of my success and productivity ?
You need an objective system that treats every entity the same regardless
of social standing or ability. Of course, safety nets could be put in place in
one form or another. Failing that, short-term incarceration suffices.

Eames 07-04-2004 08:16 AM

this is a hard issue to side with, on one hand i can see the point of having fines proportional with your income for fairness...because like previously stated a 250 dollar fine kills normal guys but to someone making over 500,000 a year its really no sweat. but that being said, the whole idea of charging someone more based on their income goes against the whole princible of equality before the law which is a cornerstone of english law and therefore in my opinion is a bad idea...before the government everyone should be viewed equal rich or poor.

SoLiDUS 07-04-2004 08:25 AM

A: "You're guilty of murder in the first."

B: "Crap ..."

A: "However, due to the fact that you have three children, we'll let you go.
Be warned: next time, there will be a FINE."


See where this is going ? Absolutely retarded. You've committed the crime,
pay the price.

Old Reliable 07-04-2004 08:59 AM

i think if a high price kills a lower income person its good cause they will be less likely to do it annoy: or they should just take your license away for afew months

Pick Axe 07-04-2004 04:31 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":1dcba]That system is in parts of the Netherlands, not Australia.[/quote:1dcba]

Mabey only in parts of Australia? My friend lives in Melborne (sp?). Just what he told me. Mabey he's full of shit.


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