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piedude 01-29-2002 12:13 AM

Cool!

I'll try that when I get my copy tomorrow! WOOHOO!!!!!!!!

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pdiddy2k 01-29-2002 12:14 AM

I think this sucks. That means people will be able to see around corners. I hope 2015 disables this in the next patch...

01-29-2002 12:45 AM

I thought it was...?

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Mange 01-29-2002 12:50 AM

I tried it in SP and it said it was cheat protected.


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01-29-2002 12:51 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mange:
I tried it in SP and it said it was cheat protected.

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Maybe First Man Down is using the unpatched version?

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CiD 01-29-2002 12:51 AM

That cvar is cheat protected in MP. To use it in SP you have to launch the game w/ +set cheats 1 at the end of the cmd. line.

Mange 01-29-2002 12:53 AM

That is good then...nobody will be able to use it in MP.

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01-29-2002 12:55 AM

Who would want 3RD person anyway?

Wouldnt it be much harder?

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CiD 01-29-2002 01:02 AM

I would think it would be harder too, but it's there..

I don't know why the development team considered this a cheat, but it is probably for the reason pdiddy2k mentioned.. If you bound 'toggle cg_3rd_person' to a key and adjusted the 3rd person angles, it could be turned on and off easily and used to see around corners w/o revealing yourself.

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sTo0z 01-29-2002 02:06 AM

I enabled cheats through my shortcut but I still get the message about 3rd person being cheat protected. I'm using Version 1.1, any ideas folks? I'd love to fool around with it, but I can't figure it out.

Again, for all those people who tend to not read everything and post info with things I said I've already tried, I'll say a few things again http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

I already have cheats enabled through my .exe shortcut with +set cheats 1
and
I tried to type cg_3rd_person 1 in my console.
I am using Version 1.1 of the game.
And I got the "Cheat protected" message, please someone help me out http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

piedude 01-29-2002 02:50 AM

Fuck you lot are retarded!

Since when is being able to play in 3rd person a cheat?If anything it would make the game HARDER, NOT EASIER! Obviously you lot dont have a clue what a cheat really is!

Here's a hint: God mode, Unlimited Ammo, All weapons, Restore health! Something that gives you a MAJOR advantage over everyone else! All third person view is, is just that, a view! It DOES NOT prevent you from getting killed, giving you extra ammo, giving you extra guns, giving you extra health etc!

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8827Echo 01-29-2002 03:15 AM

Anyone got some screenshots?

Von Paulus 01-29-2002 04:02 AM

Yeah, Post some screens!

sTo0z 01-29-2002 04:43 AM

*bump*

Come on folks, help me out http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

Polaris 01-29-2002 05:20 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sTo0z:
*bump*

Come on folks, help me out http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif
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lol , i'm in the same boat as you pal . i get that protected crap too .


Machine_Gunner 01-29-2002 06:03 AM

mabey we put the no cheat crap on?

Polaris 01-29-2002 06:09 AM

yes!! i got it working . i forgot i patched the game the other day . it needs to be unpatched for you to enable 3rd person . the 3rd person view is even better then deadlydozen's 3rd person . http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

off i go ...

Polaris 01-29-2002 06:13 AM

wait ...how do i bind it to a key ????

hossy904 01-29-2002 06:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Polaris:
yes!! i got it working . i forgot i patched the game the other day . it needs to be unpatched for you to enable 3rd person . the 3rd person view is even better then deadlydozen's 3rd person . http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif

off i go ...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Patched? With what? 1.1? I've got 1.1 and I enable 3rd person easily (proof: look at above pics, they're from 1.1).



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Polaris 01-29-2002 06:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hossy904:
Patched? With what? 1.1? I've got 1.1 and I enable 3rd person easily (proof: look at above pics, they're from 1.1).

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thats weird , because i tried like 30 times . so i just did a reinstall w/o the patch and it worked . oh well .

do you know how to bind it to a key ?

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hossy904 01-29-2002 06:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Polaris:
thats weird , because i tried like 30 times . so i just did a reinstall w/o the patch and it worked . oh well .

do you know how to bind it to a key ?

[This message has been edited by Polaris (edited January 29, 2002).]
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Don't even know what that means! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif Here's my full command line..maybe there's something in there different:

"C:Program FilesEA GAMESMOHAAMOHAA.exe" +set ui_console 1 +set cheats 1 + set thereisnomonkey 1 +set cl_playintro 0 +set ui_skip_eamovie 1 +set ui_skip_titlescreen 1 +set ui_skip_legalscreen 1

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Polaris 01-29-2002 06:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hossy904:
Don't even know what that means! http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/smile.gif Here's my full command line..maybe there's something in there different:

"C:Program FilesEA GAMESMOHAAMOHAA.exe" +set ui_console 1 +set cheats 1 + set thereisnomonkey 1 +set cl_playintro 0 +set ui_skip_eamovie 1 +set ui_skip_titlescreen 1 +set ui_skip_legalscreen 1

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thanks man , i'll copy that . what i mean is having 3rd person view asigned to a key like "f1" for rogue spear or "c" for deadlydozen if at all possible . but thx anyways .

CiD 01-29-2002 06:27 AM

To bind it to a key you would type into the console something like:
bind <key> toggle cg_3rd_person
where <key> is a valid key like F11 or F12.

Or you could make a file called custom.cfg in you MOHAA/main directory and put the bind in there and it would get run everytime you start the game. If you put the bind in a cfg file then you need to do it like this:
bind <key> "toggle cg_3rd_person"
w/ the quotes and again where <key> is a valid key.

But keep in mind that w/ v1.1 this cvar is cheat protected so this will only work in SP. Also for the people having trouble, another thing to try is in addition to the '+set cheats 1' add '+set thereisnomonkey 1' to the end of your command line shortcut as well. I have heard that is needed as well for cheats to work, but I am not sure.

hossy904 01-29-2002 06:42 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CiD:

But keep in mind that w/ v1.1 this cvar is cheat protected so this will only work in SP. Also for the people having trouble, another thing to try is in addition to the '+set cheats 1' add '+set thereisnomonkey 1' to the end of your command line shortcut as well. I have heard that is needed as well for cheats to work, but I am not sure.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, I just confirmed this: both '+set cheats' & '+set thereisnomoneky 1' are needed for ANY cheats (including, but not limited to, the 3rd person "cheat") in v1.1.



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First Man Down v2.0 01-29-2002 09:23 AM

Yeah, you have to set +set cheats 1 in the command line - should have mentioned that. I can't see why anyone would want to use it in SP, let alone in MP. It's bloody difficult. I am using version 1.10, by the way.

I might post some screenshots tonight, if I'm not too busy.

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mercenary 01-29-2002 09:38 AM

I think that using third person in multiplayer would be almost impossible, where would you have the crosshair, besides 3rd person view would take all of the fun out of the game.

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hossy904 01-29-2002 09:56 AM

3rd person IS tough...I had to put God mode on just to take photos:
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper1.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper2.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper3.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper4.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper5.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper6.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper7.jpg



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hossy904 01-29-2002 10:00 AM

and...
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper8.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper9.jpg
http://www.kkln.com/syphix/3rdper10.jpg

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First Man Down v2.0 01-29-2002 11:48 AM

Not sure if this was already posted, but I haven't been here in a while. Anyway, to play the game in the 3rd Person, type cg_3rd_person 1 into the console.

Cpt. dick 01-29-2002 11:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CiD:
If you bound 'toggle cg_3rd_person' to a key and adjusted the 3rd person angles, it could be turned on and off easily and used to see around corners w/o revealing yourself.

[This message has been edited by CiD (edited January 29, 2002).]
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that is why it would be bad for 3rd person to be enabled piedude. we're not saying it would be better for someone to play with it on. but to be able to toggle it would give someone an advantage. I dont really consider it a cheat, but it shouldnt be in this game.

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sTo0z 01-30-2002 04:11 AM

You guys are gonna love this one... but here goes:

I was visiting websites while waiting for people to post some threads on this and I had already found that thereisnomonkey thing.. So overjoyed with finally finding my problem I went to try it out. Alas, the dreaded "This is cheat protected." message still plagued me and I've yet to get past it.

Here is my command line:
"C:Program FilesEA GAMESMOHAAMOHAA.exe" +set cheats 1 +set thereisnomonkey 1

So here is the really cool part... I figured maybe 3rd person was just being stupid, so I tried to activate any old cheat. So I typed "dog" into my console and can you guess what happened? I got a lovely message saying that cheats must be enabled on the server with the command +set cheats 1.

So what the heck... as you can see by my command line I obviously have the thing set. So I guess there is something else to it. Where exactly are you guys using the cheats? I've tried to start a new game, I've tried to load a mission in the middle, I've start to start at beginnings of missions, nothing ever works... So what now guys, would love to hear your answers.. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

hossy904 01-30-2002 05:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by josh88:
I have 1.1 with the line saying...
"C:Program FilesEA GAMESMOHAAMOHAA.exe" +set cl_playintro 0 +set ui_skip_eamovie 1 +set ui_skip_titlescreen 1 +set ui_skip_legalscreen 1 +set developer 1 +set ui_console 1 +set thereisnomonkey 1 +set cheats 1
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's my exact command line...and I uninstalled, reinstalled, repatched, and THEN played..and cheats DO work in SP 1.1.



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8827Echo 01-30-2002 05:52 AM

Stooz, are you using the 1.1 patch?

sTo0z 01-30-2002 06:35 AM

Yep, I sure am. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/wink.gif

Apparently some people think it necessary to revert back to retail version, but it looks as though some people are getting things to work even WITH the 1.1 patch, so I don't think version is an issue.

But yes, I have the 1.1 patch installed.

8827Echo 01-30-2002 06:59 AM

Well try going back to the 1.0 retail and see if it works.

sTo0z 01-30-2002 07:12 AM

Yah I'm trying it only in SP mode, I would never dream of cheating in MP. Still doesn't work for me, I'm using exact same settings and methods all of you are using and it just keeps giving me those messages, I have no idea what's up.. it's very aggrivating.. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif

sTo0z 01-30-2002 07:13 AM

Oh yah, and I don't (DO NOT) have any mods installed.

hossy904 01-30-2002 07:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sTo0z:
So what the heck... as you can see by my command line I obviously have the thing set. So I guess there is something else to it. Where exactly are you guys using the cheats? I've tried to start a new game, I've tried to load a mission in the middle, I've start to start at beginnings of missions, nothing ever works... So what now guys, would love to hear your answers.. http://www.alliedassault.com/ubb/frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll uninstall MOH:AA, reinstall, apply the patch, and see if it works...I don't know if it has a history as to whether you used cheats at all in the 1.0 version or not...I'll try it later today. I don't have my command line here at work, but I've posted it on this thread (one page back, I believe).

EDIT: try adding this, too:
+set ui_console 1

I don't know if it'll help...

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josh88 01-30-2002 10:22 AM

I have 1.1 with the line saying...
"C:Program FilesEA GAMESMOHAAMOHAA.exe" +set cl_playintro 0 +set ui_skip_eamovie 1 +set ui_skip_titlescreen 1 +set ui_skip_legalscreen 1 +set developer 1 +set ui_console 1 +set thereisnomonkey 1 +set cheats 1.....works for me when I go third person. the "cg_acidtrip 1" is cool in the sniper town.

Anderson 01-30-2002 11:13 AM

Does it really work?


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