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Sgt>Stackem 11-14-2005 11:23 AM

Michigan-OhioState week
 
this is a BIG week for us mid-westerners. It is Michigan-OhioState week. The big game and agruably the best rivalry in sports.

I know Ill be checking these out on ESPN Classics
11/15 6pm 1974 game
11/16 6pm 1997 game
11/17 6pm 1988 game
11/18 6pm 2002 game


the party is set for Saturday
1pm kickoff
4pm Michigan State/Penn State game
7:30pm RedWings

3 poker tables, 1 bon fire and about 15 friends (wife and kids in a hotel room )

Milla 11-14-2005 11:26 AM

Good times, i can't wait for UVA vs VT coming soon.

KTOG 11-14-2005 11:44 AM

PITT vs WVU on thanksgiving ... should be a blowout for WVU. cry:

Pyro 11-14-2005 12:10 PM

I doubt it's the best rivalry in sports...since no one should give a shit about Michigan because Blue sucks.

You'd know that you'd believe that a sport that doens't welcome any teams besides American college teams would be your choice for best rivalry.

Id say Yankees-Red Sox is the longest and has the most hatred.

Sgt>Stackem 11-14-2005 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I doubt it's the best rivalry in sports...since no one should give a shit about Michigan because Blue sucks.

You'd know that you'd believe that a sport that doens't welcome any teams besides American college teams would be your choice for best rivalry.

Id say Yankees-Red Sox is the longest and has the most hatred.


I always suspected it but now you have confirmed it, your an idiot. Why would the NCAA want other teams? I suppose you want CFL teams in there? It would still be a blowout! I can count on you to try to ruin every thread that is posted. If your not bad mouthing the US veterans you are shitting on President Bush, get a life

tomxtr 11-14-2005 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I doubt it's the best rivalry in sports...since no one should give a shit about Michigan because Blue sucks.

You'd know that you'd believe that a sport that doens't welcome any teams besides American college teams would be your choice for best rivalry.

Id say Yankees-Red Sox is the longest and has the most hatred.

Here we go again.

I don't care for either team, but I watch Michigan vs. OSU every year.

BTW, MD vs. Duke in hoops. rock: Recently, anyway.

Pyro 11-14-2005 12:46 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":b4db0]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I doubt it's the best rivalry in sports...since no one should give a shit about Michigan because Blue sucks.

You'd know that you'd believe that a sport that doens't welcome any teams besides American college teams would be your choice for best rivalry.

Id say Yankees-Red Sox is the longest and has the most hatred.


I always suspected it but now you have confirned it, your an idiot. Why would the NCAA want other teams? I suppose you want CFL teams in there? It would still be a blowout! I can count on you to try to ruin every thread that is posted. If your not bad mouthing the US veterans you are shitting on President Bush, get a life[/quote:b4db0]

I just don't think Michigan+Best should ever go in the same sentence.

I don't see how ONE game a year can make you be considered for best rivalry.

Im not saying NCAA should have canadian teams, im saying the best rivalry can't possibly be in a league like that.

Argos-Ticats has just as much hate btw. Same with the Eskimos-Stamps.

Sgt>Stackem 11-14-2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro

I just don't think Michigan+Best should ever go in the same sentence.

.

the last time Ill quote you:


The U-M football team won the first Rose Bowl game in 1902, and has won an NCAA-record 842 games through the 2004 season. The football team is the NCAA's all-time winningest program—in both total wins and winning percentage. The program is a model of consistency, because it is one of only two teams to have been ranked in the final "Top 25" poll every year since 1989.[14] Since that time, the Wolverines have won outright or shared seven Big Ten titles and won a national championship. U-M football has won eleven national championships overall, the most recent in 1997,[15] and has produced three Heisman trophy winners.[16]Michigan is the first, and to date the only, school to produce a primarily defensive player who won the Heisman trophy,(Charles Woodson).

Michigan Stadium ("The Big House"), is the largest football-only stadium in the world, with a capacity of 107,501 and attendance typically exceeding 110,000. The NCAA's record-breaking attendance has become commonplace at Michigan Stadium, especially since the arrival of Bo Schembechler in 1969. U-M has fierce rivalries with many teams, including Michigan State and Notre Dame. However, its football rivalry with Ohio State University is widely considered to be the fiercest in all of college athletics, and has been referred to as the greatest rivalry of all time by ESPN.[17]



source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Michigan

KTOG 11-14-2005 01:04 PM

I'm pretty sure US vs Iraq is a bigger rivalry.

tomxtr 11-14-2005 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTOG
I'm pretty sure US vs Iraq is a bigger rivalry.

Couldn't possibly be. The Canadians are not a part of that one.

Colonel 11-14-2005 01:13 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":0d282]its football rivalry with Ohio State University is widely considered to be the fiercest in all of college athletics, and has been referred to as the greatest rivalry of all time by ESPN[/quote:0d282]

I've always wondered about that. How can a rivalry be between two schools that aren't even in the same state be as intense as Alabama-Auburn? Heck, we gotta live with those people every day of the year! Coaches that came to Alabama from outside of the program, like Bill Curry and Dennis Francioni, all say that they have never experienced anything like it in their career.

(and as far as "best" is concerned, come talk to me after you've won 12 National Championships!) ;) biggrin:

Bleuachdu 11-14-2005 01:31 PM

What makes the UM - OSU rivalry so great is that, with few exceptions, the game has Big10 and bowl game implications every year. Either Ohio State or UMich are at or near the top of the Big10 every year and this game usually seals the fate of one or the other, which in turn has an effect on the Rose Bowl and other BCS games.

So yes, it's one of the greatest rivalries in sports. If two teams hate each other, but their games are completely inconsequential every year, the quality of the rivalry suffers because not very much attention is given to the game.

JBird 11-14-2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I doubt it's the best rivalry in sports...since no one should give a shit about Michigan because Blue sucks.

You'd know that you'd believe that a sport that doens't welcome any teams besides American college teams would be your choice for best rivalry.

Id say Yankees-Red Sox is the longest and has the most hatred.

truthfully, i dont think anyone cares to know what a kid from Canada thinks about American sports rivalries, period.


The big house is an amazing place to see a game, 110 thousand ppl...quite a site. Although i am a die hard Illini fan, we havent been competitive in football for quite some time. I definately hate ohio state the most though.

OH HOW I HATE, OHIO STATE!

Hawke 11-14-2005 02:00 PM

OSU for the win. rock:

Milla 11-14-2005 02:15 PM

Why is it such a rivelry?

Scalping Chief 11-14-2005 02:15 PM

Who? eek:

Colonel 11-14-2005 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Why is it such a rivelry?

Read Bleuachdu's post.

tomxtr 11-14-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Good times, i can't wait for UVA vs VT coming soon.

Won't be quite as exciting now that VaTech lost to Miami. Marcus Vick is no Michael Vick.

Sgt>Stackem 11-14-2005 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Why is it such a rivelry?

So what makes Ohio State-Michigan so special?
There are other rivalries which are noteworthy, like Florida-Florida State, Alabama-Auburn, USC-UCLA, Army-Navy, and others, but none combine the history (almost 100 meetings) and the annual significance (at least 1 team in the final top 10 every year since 1987, plus only 5 times since 1967 has the the OSU/Michigan game had no impact on the championship of the Big Ten. One team or both either finished first or were first or tied going into the game every year but 1999, 1994, 1987, 1985, and 1983. Plus, over those years, only once has either team had a losing record, OSU in 1988.) No other rivalry can claim this.

One thing fans of other rivalries always cite as a reason this one isn't the best is that it is rather uneven. Michigan does lead the series 55-35-6, but the Wolverines lead 13-0-2 before the 1919 game, and 19-3-2 before the 1928 game. Ohio State's only wins came during the 1919-1921 games. Taking out those first 24 games, the series is Michigan 36, Ohio State 32, 4 ties. It has remained pretty even throughout the time since 1928, when OSU finally started fielding nationally recognized teams.

Michigan has won 795 games in its history (1st overall in NCAA history), and Ohio State has won 717 (7th overall). Ohio State has had 6 Heisman trophy winners, Michigan 3. Between them, the Bucks and Wolves went to 13 consecutive Rose Bowls between 1968-1980 (1969-1981 Rose Bowls). Since 1967, only once (1987) has neither Ohio State nor Michigan finished either first of second in the Big Ten.

How's THIS for amazing? Since World War II (1945), Ohio State has won 421 games (421-144-20). Michigan has won 423! (423-154-15). Can't get much closer than that! Ohio State is 6th overall during that span, while Michigan is tied for 7th with Tennessee and Notre Dame. Since 1960, OSU has a (326-99-10) record-- 4th overall. UM's record is (324-109-10)-- 5th overall. Since 1989, OSU and Michigan have 93 wins apiece. Both are 7th over that span. Pick any period of time between 1900 and 1998 and Ohio State and Michigan are both in the top 10 overall of wins. Amazing. Compare the 20th century win total of OSU and Michigan (671+ 695= 1366) to those of Florida and Florida State (545+ 369= 914) or Alabama and Auburn (713+ 579= 1292) or Army and Navy (579+ 506= 1085), and tell me what the greatest rivalry of the 20th century is.

JBird 11-14-2005 02:43 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":2e267]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Why is it such a rivelry?

So what makes Ohio State-Michigan so special?
There are other rivalries which are noteworthy, like Florida-Florida State, Alabama-Auburn, USC-UCLA, Army-Navy, and others, but none combine the history (almost 100 meetings) and the annual significance (at least 1 team in the final top 10 every year since 1987, plus only 5 times since 1967 has the the OSU/Michigan game had no impact on the championship of the Big Ten. One team or both either finished first or were first or tied going into the game every year but 1999, 1994, 1987, 1985, and 1983. Plus, over those years, only once has either team had a losing record, OSU in 1988.) No other rivalry can claim this.

One thing fans of other rivalries always cite as a reason this one isn't the best is that it is rather uneven. Michigan does lead the series 55-35-6, but the Wolverines lead 13-0-2 before the 1919 game, and 19-3-2 before the 1928 game. Ohio State's only wins came during the 1919-1921 games. Taking out those first 24 games, the series is Michigan 36, Ohio State 32, 4 ties. It has remained pretty even throughout the time since 1928, when OSU finally started fielding nationally recognized teams.

Michigan has won 795 games in its history (1st overall in NCAA history), and Ohio State has won 717 (7th overall). Ohio State has had 6 Heisman trophy winners, Michigan 3. Between them, the Bucks and Wolves went to 13 consecutive Rose Bowls between 1968-1980 (1969-1981 Rose Bowls). Since 1967, only once (1987) has neither Ohio State nor Michigan finished either first of second in the Big Ten.

How's THIS for amazing? Since World War II (1945), Ohio State has won 421 games (421-144-20). Michigan has won 423! (423-154-15). Can't get much closer than that! Ohio State is 6th overall during that span, while Michigan is tied for 7th with Tennessee and Notre Dame. Since 1960, OSU has a (326-99-10) record-- 4th overall. UM's record is (324-109-10)-- 5th overall. Since 1989, OSU and Michigan have 93 wins apiece. Both are 7th over that span. Pick any period of time between 1900 and 1998 and Ohio State and Michigan are both in the top 10 overall of wins. Amazing. Compare the 20th century win total of OSU and Michigan (671+ 695= 1366) to those of Florida and Florida State (545+ 369= 914) or Alabama and Auburn (713+ 579= 1292) or Army and Navy (579+ 506= 1085), and tell me what the greatest rivalry of the 20th century is.[/quote:2e267]

check and mate....


also, if you knew anything about sports in general you wouldnt have to ask such a pitiful question.

Colonel 11-14-2005 02:50 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":e3eef]...and tell me what the greatest rivalry of the 20th century is.[/quote:e3eef]

Alabama-Auburn.

braggin' rights over kin folk at Thanksgiving, Christmas, and over fellow employees every day of the year > a Big 10 title

SEC > Big 10

Crimson and White > Blue and Yellow

Crimson Red Helmets with White Stripe > Blue helmet with ugly yellow stuff on it

Even Auburn's ugly dang helmets > Blue helmet with ugly yellow stuff on it


Joe Namath > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State

Bo Jackson > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State

Anybody that ever played at Alabama or Auburn > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State

Bear Bryant > Woody Hayes or anybody that ever coached at Michigan or Ohio State

Alabama women > Michigan or Ohio women

Nyck 11-14-2005 03:01 PM

Lets see

Joe Namath 13 year career
27663 Yds Passing
173 TDs
220 INTs
1 superbowl(1 mvp)


Tom Brady in 4 1/2 years of starting
16485 Yds Passing
111 TDs
58 INTs
3 Superbowls(2 MVPs)

Ps its Maize and Blue biggrin:

Colonel 11-14-2005 03:23 PM

Joe Namath > Tom Brady

New England Patriots > New York Jets

Number of girls Broadway Joe has had > Number of girls Tom Brady could ever get

Number of bad knees on Joe Willie > number of bad knees on Tom Brady

Number of pictures of Joe in a big gay looking (but apparently stylish at the time) fur coat > Number of pictures Tom Brady in fur coat

Namath's nose > Tom Brady's nose

Pyro 11-14-2005 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBird
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyro
I doubt it's the best rivalry in sports...since no one should give a shit about Michigan because Blue sucks.

You'd know that you'd believe that a sport that doens't welcome any teams besides American college teams would be your choice for best rivalry.

Id say Yankees-Red Sox is the longest and has the most hatred.

truthfully, i dont think anyone cares to know what a kid from Canada thinks about American sports rivalries, period.


The big house is an amazing place to see a game, 110 thousand ppl...quite a site. Although i am a die hard Illini fan, we havent been competitive in football for quite some time. I definately hate ohio state the most though.

OH HOW I HATE, OHIO STATE!

Baseball is not all American...and I wish that some American players were nice fellows like Larry Walker and not cocksuckers like so many.

Im almost certain there is a toronto team in the MLB.

JBird 11-14-2005 04:21 PM

sleeping:


yes those bluejay rivalries are huge....god just be quiet please.

Old Reliable 11-14-2005 04:24 PM

well i just went to the mich/indiana "game" and it proved the fact indiana shouldn't have a football team. absolutely pitiful performance. michigan defense shut them down besides the game starting drive which I missed. hopefully i'll be able to get tickets to this game, as I went to the one 2 years ago and found it to be the 2nd best game ive been to at the big house :D GO BLUE

Coleman 11-14-2005 04:28 PM

i'll watch it....along with my PSU/Michigan St. game.

#4 in BCS rock:

Pyro 11-14-2005 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBird
sleeping:


yes those bluejay rivalries are huge....god just be quiet please.

I like to know we had easilly the second best team between 1990-present. Id say the 1998 Yankees were probably better.

Didn't take us fucking years between World Series either...we won it the next year.

I just just mentioning the bluejays because you're making it seem like Baseball is not known to Canadians.

Hawke 11-14-2005 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel
Alabama-Auburn.

braggin' rights over kin folk at Thanksgiving, Christmas, and over fellow employees every day of the year > a Big 10 title

LOL
Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel

Joe Namath > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State

Bo Jackson > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State

LMAO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel
Anybody that ever played at Alabama or Auburn > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State

ROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel
Alabama women > Michigan or Ohio women

hake:

Milla 11-14-2005 08:46 PM

[quote=JBird]
Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":07553
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milla
Why is it such a rivelry?


check and mate....


also, if you knew anything about sports in general you wouldnt have to ask such a pitiful question.[/quote:07553]

You referring to me?

wintersforge 11-16-2005 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTOG
I'm pretty sure US vs Iraq is a bigger rivalry.

KaoS vs EcE was big
aM vs BoRo was bigger

Coleman 11-16-2005 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersforge
Quote:

Originally Posted by KTOG
I'm pretty sure US vs Iraq is a bigger rivalry.

KaoS vs EcE was big
aM vs BoRo was bigger

happy: beer:

Pyro 11-16-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersforge
Quote:

Originally Posted by KTOG
I'm pretty sure US vs Iraq is a bigger rivalry.

KaoS vs EcE was big
aM vs BoRo was bigger

WaffenSS > KaoS

POAAC > aM

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Hawke 11-19-2005 03:15 PM

25-21..... biggrin:

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Nyck 11-19-2005 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawke
25-21..... biggrin:

LOLz tressel is 4-1 against Michigan...

outback bowl bound!

Coleman 11-19-2005 03:46 PM

fuck, now PSU will have to share the damn big 10 title.

Hawke 11-19-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleman
fuck, now PSU will have to share the damn big 10 title.

MSU is handing them that fucking game annoy:

Stammer 11-19-2005 04:03 PM

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