[Trunks]

There may have already been a thread on this but o well.

I will go on to explain my personal theory. Alright, now I believe in fate. Now, let me start from the beggining and we will build on it. We have a baby that has just been born. He is very big. Now this baby already has a preset character, and because of things he will experience throughout his life, it will change the way he acts in certain situations, and because his character is already determined, then the way he will react to certain things is already predtermined as well. For example, this baby grew up. He had a very sensitive, nice character, but because say, his parents beat him, it changed the way he acts. Note it doesnt change his actual character, just the way he acts. Because of this, he begins to bully people. It is all predetermined. Because he is sensitive, he will be very upset about his parents beating him, which will lead him to take out the anger on others, and when he ends up hurting others, his guilt swells up, and he feels even worse, and has to take his anger out on somebody again. Multiply that by 6 billion people with different characters, who will respond differently in different situations, and you have our world. Basically, what i am saying is that a persons life is already predetermined by his character, and while it may seem like the person has a choice, he really doesnt because that in his character, and because of something that happened to him, the way he acts in different situations is changed because of his character, and it may seem like the bully has a choice not too bully, but it reality he doesnt because he just cant take it, its like dominos, one domino effects the other, and soon lots of dominos have fallen, and we start to see real results, etc. I am not sure if i was very clear so if anybody would like me to clarify do not hesitate to ask.
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[Tripper]

It's called Determinism.

I believe it....Only problem is every little thing makes a difference. The world is to chaotic to calculate fate....So it's really only an abstract theory.

[ninty]

Yeah, your theory or idea works to an extent. People are born with a certain set of characteristics. I can buy that. I think their character is more determined on what they go through in life. I think our character is evolving all the time. I don't believe in fate, ior predetermination or anything like that, but I do believe that we make choices based upon what type of a person we are. And this all depends on our upbringing and how we're taught. Thats why parenting is very important.

[Scorched Earth]

I believe everyone has a preset fate except in certain times in which there is a fork in your path..very few destiny-altering decisions but i think they are there...

[ninty]

Does God determine these fates, or is it more of a "this is what I was born into, this is what I have learned, and this is the way I am going to be in the end?"

[newt.]

I make my own fate

[Hawke]

Originally Posted by ninty9

Does God determine these fates, or is it more of a "this is what I was born into, this is what I have learned, and this is the way I am going to be in the end?"

The Catholic doctorine claims that God gives you life and lets you do with it freely and to use it wisely.

I think that we have a half prederminated life. Where we have a situation and you have choices, if you choose one it takes you to another thing and so on and choose the other, a totally different thing and so on.

[Jin-Roh]

Butterfly Effect / Chaos Theory ? eek:

[Arch]

Certain events can alter your 'fate'. However what if you are conscious of this? Something like taking matters into your own hands. hellfire:

[Madmartagen]

[quote="newt.":9b0b9]I make my own fate[/quote:9b0b9]

[BadScript]

People are born with a set of characters and personalities, yes, that's been proven genetically. If you think about it, it's true that a lot of things happened (or did not happen) to you because of the way you acted in general, and how you've reacted to different situations; Now if we expand the theory, it's also true that the people that affected you the most (ie your parents, friends, mate) affected you the way they've affected you because of their own characters and personalities, which are also pre-determined and affectable by other people around them including yourself. IMO a person's character is a constant in the "fate equation".

Don't believe that's a constant? Let's take your health as an example. How heathy you are is predetermined genetically, some were born stronger / taller / bigger / smaller / longer (?) than the others. How you react to situations (bun gee jump, yes? no? unprotected sex yes? no?) is also predetermined by your character, so even how long you live can be estimated quite precisely once you were born by guessing how likely you are to be involved in an accident and how likely you are to have a heart attack.

Still, that leaves us with a variable called dumb luck. For example, you, being a physically fit person, walk down the street one day just minding your own business, staying out of trouble; where suddenly a drunk trucker ran you over with his truck from behind @ 100 MPH. There's no way that anyone, with any sort of character, in any sort of physical condition, can react to that, basically any person in the world put in that situation will die. So you died, sorry, that's what I called dumb luck.

Combine the two and you have fate. At this moment of my life, I will agree that ~80% of the time fate is in your own hands (see the "constant" part), but 20% of the time, things happened because they happened and there's just not a damn thing you can do about it (see the "variable" part).

Oh and I am such a philosopher. +karmas please biggrin:

[KTOG]

Originally Posted by BadScript

People are born with a set of characters and personalities, yes, that's been proven genetically. If you think about it, it's true that a lot of things happened (or did not happen) to you because of the way you acted in general, and how you've reacted to different situations; Now if we expand the theory, it's also true that the people that affected you the most (ie your parents, friends, mate) affected you the way they've affected you because of their own characters and personalities, which are also pre-determined and affectable by other people around them including yourself. IMO a person's character is a constant in the "fate equation".

Don't believe that's a constant? Let's take your health as an example. How heathy you are is predetermined genetically, some were born stronger / taller / bigger / smaller / longer (?) than the others. How you react to situations (bun gee jump, yes? no? unprotected sex yes? no?) is also predetermined by your character, so even how long you live can be estimated quite precisely once you were born by guessing how likely you are to be involved in an accident and how likely you are to have a heart attack.

Still, that leaves us with a variable called dumb luck. For example, you, being a physically fit person, walk down the street one day just minding your own business, staying out of trouble; where suddenly a drunk trucker ran you over with his truck from behind @ 100 MPH. There's no way that anyone, with any sort of character, in any sort of physical condition, can react to that, basically any person in the world put in that situation will die. So you died, sorry, that's what I called dumb luck.

Combine the two and you have fate. At this moment of my life, I will agree that ~80% of the time fate is in your own hands (see the "constant" part), but 20% of the time, things happened because they happened and there's just not a damn thing you can do about it (see the "variable" part).

Oh and I am such a philosopher. +karmas please biggrin:

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[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by BadScript

People are born with a set of characters and personalities, yes, that's been proven genetically. If you think about it, it's true that a lot of things happened (or did not happen) to you because of the way you acted in general, and how you've reacted to different situations; Now if we expand the theory, it's also true that the people that affected you the most (ie your parents, friends, mate) affected you the way they've affected you because of their own characters and personalities, which are also pre-determined and affectable by other people around them including yourself. IMO a person's character is a constant in the "fate equation".

Don't believe that's a constant? Let's take your health as an example. How heathy you are is predetermined genetically, some were born stronger / taller / bigger / smaller / longer (?) than the others. How you react to situations (bun gee jump, yes? no? unprotected sex yes? no?) is also predetermined by your character, so even how long you live can be estimated quite precisely once you were born by guessing how likely you are to be involved in an accident and how likely you are to have a heart attack.

Still, that leaves us with a variable called dumb luck. For example, you, being a physically fit person, walk down the street one day just minding your own business, staying out of trouble; where suddenly a drunk trucker ran you over with his truck from behind @ 100 MPH. There's no way that anyone, with any sort of character, in any sort of physical condition, can react to that, basically any person in the world put in that situation will die. So you died, sorry, that's what I called dumb luck.

Combine the two and you have fate. At this moment of my life, I will agree that ~80% of the time fate is in your own hands (see the "constant" part), but 20% of the time, things happened because they happened and there's just not a damn thing you can do about it (see the "variable" part).

Oh and I am such a philosopher. +karmas please biggrin:

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[KTOG]

weird

[Tripper]

rofllmfao