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Default cheating? - 08-18-2002, 12:27 PM

ok i was wondering...if there is a way to make a server side realism mod.......then is there a way to make one that isnt? b/c i know realism mods work with making the guns more powerful...is there any way some one could make thiuer guns more powerful and NOT make it server side? if so then i know some pple that are elligable to have cheater in thier name but if its not they are really really really good any way peace out!

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Default 08-18-2002, 02:07 PM

No, there won't be any cheats of any kind, unless they are bugs in the game. The SDK was never released, and that is one positive reason that it wasn't.
  
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Default Re: cheating? - 08-18-2002, 04:47 PM

[quote="snipeymagoo"]Is there any way someone could make their guns more powerful and NOT make it server side? If so then i know some pple that are elligable to have cheater in thier name...[quote]

More powerful?...no
More accurate?... yes
How?...nevermind
Seeing is believing? (filmed at Barrysworld) http://members.shaw.ca/ctrl.alt.del/bar_cheat.wmv

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Default 08-18-2002, 04:55 PM

What the hell was that supposed to proove?

I saw a guy kill another guy with the BAR...so what? Wheres the cheating?
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 05:01 PM

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What the hell was that supposed to proove?

I saw a guy kill another guy with the BAR...so what? Wheres the cheating?
It proves lack of reeding komprehenshun for one thing.

I shall have to repeat myself.... "Keep your eye on the crosshair when I lay waste to the sniper across the street."

WATCH the crosshair....it doesn't move an iota. Although bulletspread is serverside, gunkick can be locally applied..... in this demonstration ... a setting of zero.

Put it this way... I fire at you from 150 yards away.... after 1 or 2 seconds the guns recoil now has me aiming 10 feet over your head (in normal mode)... whereas with this thingy, the serverside bullet spread is STILL in effect but that "spread" is no longer shooting above your head it stays pointed right AT YOU.


See?

It also removed the smoke and flash for better visiblilty....or did you notice?
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 05:16 PM

if you snipe on full auto you have problems to begin with.
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:23 PM

In reply to the first poster... no. In reply to the no-recoil mod... Yeh, it stops the client-side re-coil of the crosshair, but this doesn't make you any more accurate at all. It's purely visual.

It does help a little, if you're a seasoned player and know how to keep your fire controlled without visual aid, but other than that it won't improve anyone's play a great deal. At the end of the day, the fact that your crosshair is not moving does not have any effect on the accuracy of the server-side physics at all. It just means you have a static reference point by which you can direct your shooting.

The actual angle that you're looking at is the determining variable that the accuracy models fire from, not the crosshair's position. All this mod does is stop the game from off-setting the crosshair to 'represent' the recoil effect.

Is it cheating? I'd say yes, but it's pretty tame cheating. It's like setting bobbing to zero in Half-Life... It certainly helps but it won't make you a great player all on its own.

It certainly doesn't come close to what the original poster was suggesting. You cannot alter the weapon's accuracy and power models client-side and never will be able to (at least until the SDK is released...)
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:25 PM

"It just means you have a static reference point by which you can direct your shooting."

Aye....and to me it helped while testing it out greatly.
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:33 PM

Yeh, I agree, but if someone needs this to be a great player they may as well not bother playing at all.
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:36 PM

wow look what i started....lol just like i started the whole thinga bout aimbots remember that ydiss??? went on for like month lol
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:38 PM

Hey man relax with the insinuations would ya? I quite inadvertantly STUMBLED across this fact while making a scoped BAR mod as a request to a friend for his own private matches. It wasn't until a day or two went by that I realized I had no: smoke, flash or jittering crosshair while playing on other servers. My intention wasn't to cheat....It was to answer the original posters question as honestly as I knew how.

In my defence I can only say this. Anyone on these forums who has seen me play knows I suck FAR TOO MUCH to be a cheater.
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:42 PM

i think ive played you g i iam [OWN] Rebel every goto the own server?
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:43 PM

a real [OWN] guy? here? evil:
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:44 PM

what...whats wrong w/ own? or do you like em hey strik0r love ur smurf thing lol
  
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Default 08-18-2002, 06:47 PM

no problem anymore since perfect sniper got banned from the aa.com server for calling everyone cheaters and then doing the nade glitch
  
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