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Default Re: Do first world nations really know the answer? - 10-02-2003, 04:24 PM

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Frist world nations, meaning the U.S., Canada, E.U., and all that other crap I missed, claim that their systems are the best and that they are the countries that know the right way to live. Well do they? These countries ways of life lead to...
Overpopulation
Depletion of natural resources
Bigger holes in the ozone layer
Increase in heat from greenhouse gasses
Basically, if us, the first world nations, keep on living the "right way", we will be fucked by one of those factor, or some of them, or all of them. Also, the earth cannot support our ways of life forever, we will run out of petroleum, and then what? The American way of life doesn't excist anymore. No more electricity, just like in August. Call the middle east medieval, but we're the ones fucked in the end, because we only think of now and not the future. Also don't call me some tree hugger, I'm just looking at facts. Whoever believes that we will someday have a world where everyone lives like people in the first world countries is a moron since that is impossible, because there isn't enough fuel in the world to do that and the planet earth can't support that. Anyway, cold fusion is only fifty years away just like it was fifty years away fifty years ago. Hydrogen requires natural gas. Anyway, back to the neolithic age! Time to find a new way of life.
disagree tottally with all your points..Forget the rest of the 1st world nations, there really is only one now it's America. And if it wasnt for America there wouldnt be a world worth living in..remember what game your playing and what it really represents..just think what would happen if the axis won WW2..i shudder to think how many more jews or others would be exterminated..

as far as the environment America has done more for it than any third world country has..for god sakes look at what Brazil is doing to thier own rainforests..pollution controls?? go to India to see what they are doing. Actually since 1975 pollution has gotten alot better in the United States and the ozone layer while it does have a small hole in it is actually getting better..take cleveland in the 70s for example, hell back then thier River caught on fire for gosh sakes!

as far as third and second world countries they will always be poor its just the way the world is built..geography my man! the reason the northen countries are better off is because of the cold weather..we have to work harder to survive thus kicking off the industrial revolution etc.

thats all i got to say bout this.. biggrin:[/quote:f7102]

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Australia and New Zealand are first world countries, and I don't think you could call them "north".
  
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this has nothing to do with 1rst world or 3rd world nations or democracy vs whatever. it is big business. everyone knows whats going to happen when the ozone and our water takes a shit. everyone knows what will happen. the problem is economical. we need to change from oil and gas to electricity, and from massive deforestation to using steel and plastic. but if you do that, then you are out of several thousand jobs, no politician will ever put their name on that shit. more cars are turning hybrid now, and if anyone saw that article on cnn about how solar power will be cheaper], things are starting to turn that way. it willl take time, but serious shit will have to happen first.
  
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this has nothing to do with 1rst world or 3rd world nations or democracy vs whatever. it is big business. everyone knows whats going to happen when the ozone and our water takes a shit. everyone knows what will happen. the problem is economical. we need to change from oil and gas to electricity, and from massive deforestation to using steel and plastic. but if you do that, then you are out of several thousand jobs, no politician will ever put their name on that shit. more cars are turning hybrid now, and if anyone saw that article on cnn about how solar power will be cheaper], things are starting to turn that way. it willl take time, but serious shit will have to happen first.
.....ROFL.....You're an imbecile. biggrin:
  
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this has nothing to do with 1rst world or 3rd world nations or democracy vs whatever. it is big business. everyone knows whats going to happen when the ozone and our water takes a shit. everyone knows what will happen. the problem is economical. we need to change from oil and gas to electricity, and from massive deforestation to using steel and plastic. but if you do that, then you are out of several thousand jobs, no politician will ever put their name on that shit. more cars are turning hybrid now, and if anyone saw that article on cnn about how solar power will be cheaper], things are starting to turn that way. it willl take time, but serious shit will have to happen first.
.....ROFL.....You're an imbecile. biggrin:
thats funny, youve made two posts on this topic and they consisted of you agreeing with someone else and flaming another, yet you find it appopriate to make fun of someone who acutally posted their own thoughts and opinions. if you arent intelligent enough to form your own opinion, then maybe you should take some time for your next response.
  
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Default Re: Do first world nations really know the answer? - 10-05-2003, 01:34 PM

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Frist world nations, meaning the U.S., Canada, E.U., and all that other crap I missed, claim that their systems are the best and that they are the countries that know the right way to live. Well do they? These countries ways of life lead to...
Overpopulation
Depletion of natural resources
Bigger holes in the ozone layer
Increase in heat from greenhouse gasses
Basically, if us, the first world nations, keep on living the "right way", we will be fucked by one of those factor, or some of them, or all of them. Also, the earth cannot support our ways of life forever, we will run out of petroleum, and then what? The American way of life doesn't excist anymore. No more electricity, just like in August. Call the middle east medieval, but we're the ones fucked in the end, because we only think of now and not the future. Also don't call me some tree hugger, I'm just looking at facts. Whoever believes that we will someday have a world where everyone lives like people in the first world countries is a moron since that is impossible, because there isn't enough fuel in the world to do that and the planet earth can't support that. Anyway, cold fusion is only fifty years away just like it was fifty years away fifty years ago. Hydrogen requires natural gas. Anyway, back to the neolithic age! Time to find a new way of life.
disagree tottally with all your points..Forget the rest of the 1st world nations, there really is only one now it's America. And if it wasnt for America there wouldnt be a world worth living in..remember what game your playing and what it really represents..just think what would happen if the axis won WW2..i shudder to think how many more jews or others would be exterminated..

as far as the environment America has done more for it than any third world country has..for god sakes look at what Brazil is doing to thier own rainforests..pollution controls?? go to India to see what they are doing. Actually since 1975 pollution has gotten alot better in the United States and the ozone layer while it does have a small hole in it is actually getting better..take cleveland in the 70s for example, hell back then thier River caught on fire for gosh sakes!

as far as third and second world countries they will always be poor its just the way the world is built..geography my man! the reason the northen countries are better off is because of the cold weather..we have to work harder to survive thus kicking off the industrial revolution etc.

thats all i got to say bout this.. biggrin:[/quote:30d32]
OK that's all nice and dandy, but you're forgetting the amount of fossil fuels, or energy, North America actually consumes, which is wayyy more than a bunch of any other third world nations. Third world nations industrialized because of first world nations. Anyway, I changed my stand on this topic anyway, I believe that there a some alternative energy sources now, like Tesla's "Free" electricity where electricity runs without wires, but solar power is just not realistic because how many solar panels would you need to actually make up for the electricity to power New York City? Much less 6 billion people... Anyway, concerning you first few comments, stop watching Fox news and learn to appreciate other countries in the world.
  
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this has nothing to do with 1rst world or 3rd world nations or democracy vs whatever. it is big business. everyone knows whats going to happen when the ozone and our water takes a shit. everyone knows what will happen. the problem is economical. we need to change from oil and gas to electricity, and from massive deforestation to using steel and plastic. but if you do that, then you are out of several thousand jobs, no politician will ever put their name on that shit. more cars are turning hybrid now, and if anyone saw that article on cnn about how solar power will be cheaper], things are starting to turn that way. it willl take time, but serious shit will have to happen first.
.....ROFL.....You're an imbecile. biggrin:
thats funny, youve made two posts on this topic and they consisted of you agreeing with someone else and flaming another, yet you find it appopriate to make fun of someone who acutally posted their own thoughts and opinions. if you arent intelligent enough to form your own opinion, then maybe you should take some time for your next response.
OMG, SORRY SIR!
  
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Default 10-05-2003, 06:01 PM

Hey, I put a lot of effort into polluting and generally destroying the world. I don't need you hippies ruining my hard work. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going outside with an aerasol can and depleting the ozone. Cheers.
  
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Default 10-06-2003, 12:34 AM

[quote="Kraut Killer":0e391]Hey, I put a lot of effort into polluting and generally destroying the world. I don't need you hippies ruining my hard work. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going outside with an aerasol can and depleting the ozone. Cheers.[/quote:0e391]

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