my internet connection!!! - Page 2

Crpl. Crunch · 03-06-2003, 11:42 AM

Sounds good! Even if it is not as good as cable it'll be better than my damned connection that averages 46K!

Ydiss · 03-06-2003, 11:53 AM

The only options in the UK for fast internet are cable (Through either NTL, Telewest or Blueyonder - all subject to availability) or ADSL through BT (that's through your phone line not your electricity line - hehe not sure where you got that idea from).

In order to get ADSL you need to be quite close to your local exhange and if you don't live in or around a city this is likely to be unavailable.

Satelite just is not worth the hassle, or cost.

Ydiss · 03-06-2003, 11:59 AM

Oh, one other option, although you'd have to be fairly rich and desperate to do this, is BT ISDN 64k.

This should be available in most areas of the country but it costs tons (£40 a month line rental) and you still need to get a free ISP on top of this (on average this will set you back a further £15 a month - if you want a decent connection).

While this frees up your phone line and still allows you to get pings of around 60-120 on UK servers, it's not particularly cost effective.

Matrf · 03-06-2003, 11:59 AM

I am not talking about dsl .

I can't find where i read about electricy and internet but i found this one :

http://www.powerlinecommunications.net/ ... orking.htm

If i remeber , UK already have isp on power line . I don't know where in UK.

Ydiss · 03-06-2003, 12:49 PM

Ah, well that technology is so new I'd not heard of it. At any rate it's not available to consumers right now (and even when it is, I can't see it being cost effective at least for a few years).

Interesting concept but deffinitely not an option for UK broadband at the moment (You can't even sign up, from what I can see).

I'll bet any money it's going to be available for business pipelines first, then (if it takes off) companies will start to offer residential services.

It certainly looks good, but that 30mbps upload and 100mbps download will almost certainly be limited to around 256k and 500k if it was available on mass-market residential (and at a similar cost to ADSL).

Thanks for pointing it out, though... Might be worth keeping an eye on.

I'd love to know how uploading through your electricity line is gonna be possible, though... I wasn't aware I was sending electricity back to the power station

Matrf · 03-06-2003, 01:26 PM

well look , it is realy done in Uk and UK is the first to do it . So yes it is possible .

You don't send back electricy . The data move in electricty , anywya i don't know much about physic.

Ydiss · 03-06-2003, 01:35 PM

I don't doubt it isn't possible, I'm just saying it isn't available yet for residential use.

It is being tested in some European countries. That's what the website you linked said.

Ydiss · 03-06-2003, 01:35 PM

Sorry, edit that as: I don't doubt it is possible...

Ydiss · 03-06-2003, 01:38 PM

Seems like it's available in Germany at least:

[link]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1251617.stm[/link]

I'm trying to see if it's available in the UK.

Ydiss · 03-06-2003, 01:39 PM

Oh lord... Having no edit key is annoying...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1251617.stm

Tiwaz · 03-06-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrf

well look , it is realy done in Uk and UK is the first to do it . So yes it is possible .

You don't send back electricy . The data move in electricty , anywya i don't know much about physic.

Well, actually, you do send back some electricity. Information through copper cables is transported by superimposing waves on carrier waves (modulation). Waves in copper cable = electricity. At least, most of the time. You can also have sound waves through copper/metal, but I will not dive any further into physics.
Anyway, the clue is that the electricity you use for electronical devices has a frequency of 50 Hertz. So there's a lot of other frequencies left to use. Same as for instance cable, some frequencies are used for television/radio, others are for internet (I believe uploading in the lower band around 50 Mhz. and downloading in the upper band around 900 Mhz. and the TV/Radio signal in between).

I know they are testing internet via powerlines in some countries, among others Germany, Spain and The Netherlands.

DeadBolt · 03-06-2003, 02:14 PM

I must warn all of you...the bots are extremely stupid (almost as bad as Bf1942 bots...) and theres no score or anything. I would play single player before playing this again....lol

Tiwaz · 03-06-2003, 02:21 PM

Edit:

Captains log, supplemental:

I don't know who developed this technique, what I do know is that it has been around for quite some time now (it's not only useful for transporting warez and stuff, biggrin: , it has a broad applicability). The first country to test it for residential use was Spain, if I remember correctly.

Zoner · 03-06-2003, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiwaz

Captains log, supplemental:

Far be it for me to call someone a nerd, but that was pretty geeky, dude. biggrin:

Zone

Tiwaz · 03-06-2003, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoner91

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Originally Posted by Tiwaz

Captains log, supplemental:

Far be it for me to call someone a nerd, but that was pretty geeky, dude. biggrin:

Zone

Well, now that you mention it, you may be right. Too late now though, biggrin: , I guess the It-sounded-good-in-my-head explanation doesn't count here eh

Old news:This forum needs an edit button.

I definitely need one, that's for sure.