[Eames]

Originally Posted by ninty9

Maybe you should go back to school and understand what i'm saying.

Would an invasion of Palestine be justified currenty? I doubt it. So if Bush can go into Iraq to wipe out that country, what is stopping the Isralies from going into palestine and wiping out them?

If the palestinians launched a large scale 9-11 type attack in which 3000 israelis died, then an israeli invasion and occupation of palastinian lands would be completly justified. When 9-11 happened we were caught with our pants at our ankles, completly unprepared. The adminstration took alot of heat, for not taking apropriate action to prevent the attack (even though clinton had numerous oprotunities to capture bin ladin and never acted on it). We are through playing games now, all countries and organization that are a threat to us, are being targeted for action. Iraq was just the first country to go in this war, other countries such as iran and syria will be next if they dont submit to inspections and stop funding terrorism. And don't think that any president would be doing what bush is doing in waging this global war on terrorism, hes had to take a stand on many issues that allienated alot of people and even close allies...but in the long run it was necessary, if a democrat would have been in office our only response to 9-11 would have been cruise missle strikes, air raids, and maybe some commando operations against al-queda bases in afganistan, you don't believe me? Look at our responses after the first world trade center bombing (none) , the al-queda sponsered embassy bombings (air strikes that ended up blowing up a pharmacy so they were stopped), and the al-queda attack on the uss cole (no response) all these events occured during clintons presidency and they only fueled the terrorist idea that america was soft and wouldnt respond to terror, and would leave as soon as their men started dying...bush's response suprised all of them, now the leaders of these organizations are in hiding and in fear of their life, sure their subordinates are rallying people to fight against us...but its time we made a stand and fight this battle, to the end.

[Poseidon]

Originally Posted by yODa

im just curious do brits have a diffrent language besides english,not a formal kind but like a slang type?,u know wat i mean?

we have wales which speak a different language!

and different places across the country have different "accents" - some may call this slang!

as for the war... i think it wasnt our or the US's place to go and invade iraq, it all seems that it evolved from Asama bin laden... bush couldnt catch him so he decided to go after sadam husain! <-- thats my opinion anyway!

though i do respect him for going to Iraq for thanksgiving to greet the troops!

[ninty]

[quote="Cpl. Eames":26620]

Originally Posted by ninty9

Maybe you should go back to school and understand what i'm saying.

Would an invasion of Palestine be justified currenty? I doubt it. So if Bush can go into Iraq to wipe out that country, what is stopping the Isralies from going into palestine and wiping out them?

If the palestinians launched a large scale 9-11 type attack in which 3000 israelis died, then an israeli invasion and occupation of palastinian lands would be completly justified. When 9-11 happened we were caught with our pants at our ankles, completly unprepared. The adminstration took alot of heat, for not taking apropriate action to prevent the attack (even though clinton had numerous oprotunities to capture bin ladin and never acted on it). We are through playing games now, all countries and organization that are a threat to us, are being targeted for action. Iraq was just the first country to go in this war, other countries such as iran and syria will be next if they dont submit to inspections and stop funding terrorism. And don't think that any president would be doing what bush is doing in waging this global war on terrorism, hes had to take a stand on many issues that allienated alot of people and even close allies...but in the long run it was necessary, if a democrat would have been in office our only response to 9-11 would have been cruise missle strikes, air raids, and maybe some commando operations against al-queda bases in afganistan, you don't believe me? Look at our responses after the first world trade center bombing (none) , the al-queda sponsered embassy bombings (air strikes that ended up blowing up a pharmacy so they were stopped), and the al-queda attack on the uss cole (no response) all these events occured during clintons presidency and they only fueled the terrorist idea that america was soft and wouldnt respond to terror, and would leave as soon as their men started dying...bush's response suprised all of them, now the leaders of these organizations are in hiding and in fear of their life, sure their subordinates are rallying people to fight against us...but its time we made a stand and fight this battle, to the end.[/quote:26620]

Listen. Were not talking about 9/11. Were talking about the Iraq war. you have to seperate the two. Saddam did not attack the US on September 11, 2001.

If israle got attacked an 3000 people died, then yes its justified. but if we look at the example of Iraq not provoking anyone at all, and the US attacking, that is not justified. If Israle decided tomorrow to inved palestine, that would not be justified. But they could if they wanted and the US wouldn't beable to say stop because they did the exact same thing with Iraq.

You also talked about inspections. Uhh...wern't there inspections going on in Iraq and then all of a sudden Pres. Bush decided to tell them to get out and bomb the shit out of Iraq? I think so. Saddam didn't kick the inspectors out, Bush did so he could attack Iraq.

[Pyro]

9/11 and Iraq are unrelated.

[yODa]

Originally Posted by ninty9

Maybe you should go back to school and understand what i'm saying.

Would an invasion of Palestine be justified currenty? I doubt it. So if Bush can go into Iraq to wipe out that country, what is stopping the Isralies from going into palestine and wiping out them?

i hope the isralies do wipe out the palestines,maybe us going to iraq was wrong,but when ur own streets arnt even safe from sucide bombers i think u should attack

[ninty]

That makes sense.

Hmm...they want to kill us so instead of trying to work our problems out, lets just kill all of them.

Why don't we put that into practice in school systems, and law enforcement? Lets just wipe out anyone who looks at us the wrong way.

I truly hope the majority of people don't think that way, because if they do, then the human race is fucked.

[SoLiDUS]

Originally Posted by Pyro

9/11 and Iraq are unrelated.

[yODa]

Originally Posted by ninty9

That makes sense.

Hmm...they want to kill us so instead of trying to work our problems out, lets just kill all of them.

Why don't we put that into practice in school systems, and law enforcement? Lets just wipe out anyone who looks at us the wrong way.

I truly hope the majority of people don't think that way, because if they do, then the human race is fucked.

ok,when i said wipe them out i didnt mean every singla one,just the ones who have connections with the groups that r bombing isreal,and how is that not a good reason to attack? killing citizens is an act of war, i dont know why they didnt go sooner

[yODa]

Originally Posted by ninty9

That makes sense.

Hmm...they want to kill us so instead of trying to work our problems out, lets just kill all of them.

Why don't we put that into practice in school systems, and law enforcement? Lets just wipe out anyone who looks at us the wrong way.

I truly hope the majority of people don't think that way, because if they do, then the human race is fucked.

ok,i didnt mean kill them all,just the ones who are connected with the groups attacking isreal,and y dont they have the right to invade?,they were killing innocent isreal citizens thats an act of war,oh and they tried to have peace but did it work?? hmm NO!

[Madmartagen]

[quote="Cpl. Eames"][ The adminstration took alot of heat, for not taking apropriate action to prevent the attack (even though clinton had numerous oprotunities to capture bin ladin and never acted on it).

dude what are you talking about. clinton sent missles to a place where he thought bin laden was hiding out (kinda like bush looking for saddam). after the 1993 attack on the WTC, Clinton got the arrests of ramzi yousef, abdul hakim murad and wali kham amin shah. clinton was in office for only 38 days when the WTC was hit the first time, but no one blamed Bush sr for this. why do you blame clinton for 9/11? Bush didnt have 38 days, he had 9 fuckin months to react to intelligence coming in from the CIA and FBI and what did he do?? HE TOOK A FUCKIN VACATION AFTER A FEW MONTHS OF OFFICE!! if there is any president to blame for 9/11 (which im not saying there is) it would be Bush, he fell asleep at the wheel after choking on a fucking pretzel.

[Merlin122]

welll.... lets start with the obvious. the man cant pronounce, spell, read 4 shit. our guy on the proverbial button should have a minimum of a highschool education. Next, the war in Iraq.... simply put, he just wanted oil. but since he needed forign help he made up stuff about this being a war about terrorism... wrong its a war about how much gas u can squeeze out of a single country. Finally, he stole the election... via the fault in our government called the electoral college which can be swayed fairly easily. well. all in all our president should be A= shot or B= tossed out. i know that if he get re elected then im starting a marxist revolution. its not pretty but hell, its better than this :\

[WidowMaker555]

Cant you see wait nevermind i forgot what i was going to say. oOo:

[Tool-back]

"Next, the war in Iraq.... simply put, he just wanted oil"


Why do people spout out this stuff when they don't even have a clue? If he just wanted the oil we would have lifted sanctions and bought it. Would be far cheaper than waging a war to get it don't you think?

[Merlin122]

[quote="Tool-back":76de9]"Next, the war in Iraq.... simply put, he just wanted oil"


Why do people spout out this stuff when they don't even have a clue? If he just wanted the oil we would have lifted sanctions and bought it. Would be far cheaper than waging a war to get it don't you think?[/quote:76de9]

yeah but remember. we are dealing with an asshole here. and iraq hated us. :\

[Tool-back]

Iraq didn't hate us. Saddam and his regime did. Seen the videos and pictures of the Iraqis dancing around the American troops? Not saying all Iraqis welcomed us, but the majority are thankful.