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08-08-2004, 08:30 PM
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politics sleeping:
argueing rock:
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That's why I posted it.
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08-08-2004, 11:44 PM
[quote="The Frenchman":b5544][quote:b5544]Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when
Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business
with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden"
diversion.
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of
international harmony.
The United States should get out of the United Nations, and
our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions
against Iraq.
A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body,
but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting
all mankind without regulation.
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and
Hillary Clinton.
The best way to improve military morale is to praise the
troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have
sex.
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time
allies, then demand their cooperation and money.
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy.
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism
HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the
public at heart.
Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk
science, but creationism should be taught in schools.
A president lying about an extramarital affair is a
impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in
which thousands die is solid defense policy.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and
censoring the Internet.
The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle
trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless
you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need
our prayers for your recovery.
You support states' rights, which means Attorney General
John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they
have the right to adopt.
What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national
interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.[/quote:b5544][/quote:b5544]
My mom and dad and a lot of my family are republican so....
VIVA LA BUSH rock:
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08-09-2004, 12:28 AM
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Bah, most of this thread is garbage. There are few peoples thoughts that i respect when it comes to politics and only a couple have put their 2 cents in, the rest is just spam.
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Including yours. Hell, half of this forum is spam, no 3/4s.
[quote:0fa3e]Abortion is not murder to me, unless it is done in the third trimester. Where do you draw that line though? [/quote:0fa3e]
But, a baby in the second trimester could live and breath in mere months.
[quote:0fa3e]If you take it far enough, you'll be saying that everytime a woman has her period, she'll be commiting murder.
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That's just fucking ignorant. That's like saying you're killing a chicken every time you crack open a fresh, un developed egg. But, what if you cracked open a egg with a half-formed chick in it? You would be killing something that could become a living being.
[quote:0fa3e]I'm pretty sure you dropped a couple living organisms when you took a shit last night.[/quote:0fa3e]
There is a huge difference between a living "organism" and a living "being". The microbes in my shit are not intelligent life forms.
[quote:0fa3e] It's the woman's body, and it's the woman's money. We could use those aborted fetuses for scientific research too.[/quote:0fa3e]
It is NOT her body, dammit. It is a living being. As far as money goes, we have wellfare and shit, and she could always have the child adopted, which would not only save a life, but there are tons of couples out there waiting for a child to adopt.
Stem cell reasearch? There's no proof that it would even work. And besides, would it really be worth it to kill a baby so that some 80 year old with Alzimers (sp?) can be helped out.
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08-09-2004, 12:41 AM
Ok, let me get this straight. Cracking open an egg isnt murder, but abortion is. It doesnt matter if its just an embryo in the egg, or a chick. The embryo COULD BE A CHICK IN MEER MONTHS!!!11111
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08-09-2004, 12:47 AM
an un-fertilized egg means shit. I'm talking about fucking embreos. You don't preform an abortion to pull out sterile eggs, that kinda happens on its own.
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08-09-2004, 01:21 AM
[quote="Pick Axe":4038a]an un-fertilized egg means shit. I'm talking about fucking embreos. You don't preform an abortion to pull out sterile eggs, that kinda happens on its own.[/quote:4038a]
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Go eat a hard boiled egg you heathen
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08-09-2004, 01:42 AM
[quote="Pick Axe":1f02f]
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Originally Posted by KTOG
Bah, most of this thread is garbage. There are few peoples thoughts that i respect when it comes to politics and only a couple have put their 2 cents in, the rest is just spam.
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Including yours. Hell, half of this forum is spam, no 3/4s.
[quote:1f02f]Abortion is not murder to me, unless it is done in the third trimester. Where do you draw that line though? [/quote:1f02f]
But, a baby in the second trimester could live and breath in mere months.
[quote:1f02f]If you take it far enough, you'll be saying that everytime a woman has her period, she'll be commiting murder.
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That's just fucking ignorant. That's like saying you're killing a chicken every time you crack open a fresh, un developed egg. But, what if you cracked open a egg with a half-formed chick in it? You would be killing something that could become a living being.
Undeveloped or not, it is a living and growing thing. In mere months, it can be fertilized and hatch into a chick.
[quote:1f02f]I'm pretty sure you dropped a couple living organisms when you took a shit last night.[/quote:1f02f]
There is a huge difference between a living "organism" and a living "being". The microbes in my shit are not intelligent life forms.
So this "life is sacred" mindset of yours is a selective process? You can choose what you want to live, and kill the rest. What a sweet fucking deal you made yourself.
[quote:1f02f] It's the woman's body, and it's the woman's money. We could use those aborted fetuses for scientific research too.[/quote:1f02f]
It is NOT her body, dammit. It is a living being. As far as money goes, we have wellfare and shit, and she could always have the child adopted, which would not only save a life, but there are tons of couples out there waiting for a child to adopt.
How the bitch got knocked up is irrelevent. She was given the ability to create life, and she can take it back. A living being the fetus is, of course, but so is a malignant tumour. Yet you want those gone straight-away. Fuck this pro-life bullshit, if it's one less mouth my taxes has to feed, then let it happen. Couples who are unable to have children of their own can adopt a troubled teenager for all I care. Shit, skip the changing diapar phase altogether.
Stem cell reasearch? There's no proof that it would even work. And besides, would it really be worth it to kill a baby so that some 80 year old with Alzimers (sp?) can be helped out.
Stem-cell research can save many things if it is given a chance, and if not, oh well. It's not like we're performing this research on live babies. I think the 80 year old lady with Alziemer's should be helped if she can afford it, and she's more important to me than some unwanted growth in a woman's body.
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Pick-axe, when you've gone through labour pains, tried to raise a couple kids in a one bedroom apartment being paid for with your minimum wage job at Wegman's, then I'll be happy to listen to what you have to say about abortion.
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08-09-2004, 01:49 AM
You people take this politics& abortion shit wwaaayyy to seriously.If your not the one being aborted you need to STFU rolleyes:
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08-09-2004, 02:15 AM
The "chicken" argument works on a juvenile level, but theres a fundemental difference between cracking open an egg or slaughtering cows and aborting a baby: we dont eat our fucking babies. The "necessity" involved with eating eggs and meat is obvious. . .we eat animals for sustinance. We do NOTHING with an aborted fetus. Period.
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08-09-2004, 02:16 AM
[quote="TGB!":4ca04]The "chicken" argument works on a juvenile level, but theres a fundemental difference between cracking open an egg or slaughtering cows and aborting a baby: we dont eat our fucking babies. The "necessity" involved with eating eggs and meat is obvious. . .we eat animals for sustinance. We do NOTHING with an aborted fetus. Period. [/quote:4ca04]Wellin that one thread... oOo:
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08-09-2004, 02:26 AM
[quote="TGB!":77491]The "chicken" argument works on a juvenile level, but theres a fundemental difference between cracking open an egg or slaughtering cows and aborting a baby: we dont eat our fucking babies. The "necessity" involved with eating eggs and meat is obvious. . .we eat animals for sustinance. We do NOTHING with an aborted fetus. Period. [/quote:77491]
There's many ways we can use aborted fetuses, you're just not being creative enough. They are excellent for scientific reasearch, vastly superior teaching aids in high school science and biology classes, they can be sold to the Vietnamese (and Koreans) and we can tap that lucrative cannibal market.
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08-09-2004, 06:07 AM
My name is David and I am a republican.
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08-09-2004, 07:17 AM
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My name is David and I am a republican.
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Hi David, it's nice to meet you.
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08-09-2004, 09:15 AM
[quote="The Frenchman":b7e9a][quote="TGB!":b7e9a]The "chicken" argument works on a juvenile level, but theres a fundemental difference between cracking open an egg or slaughtering cows and aborting a baby: we dont eat our fucking babies. The "necessity" involved with eating eggs and meat is obvious. . .we eat animals for sustinance. We do NOTHING with an aborted fetus. Period. [/quote:b7e9a]
There's many ways we can use aborted fetuses, you're just not being creative enough. They are excellent for scientific reasearch, vastly superior teaching aids in high school science and biology classes, they can be sold to the Vietnamese (and Koreans) and we can tap that lucrative cannibal market.[/quote:b7e9a]I really hope you just forgot to put in the sarcasm brackets...if not, you're one sick motherfucker.
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08-09-2004, 09:43 AM
Abortion is a touchy subject, no doubt.
Personally I can see certain reasons for abortions, but for the most part I believe that parents have a responsibility to their children born or not.
On the subject of Stem Cell research...
There is no cause to stop this reasearch other than some peoples dilutions about tinkering in gods kitchen. I guess some people simply have seen to many movies, or believe that the set laws of religion from 3000 years ago hold 100% today.
The benifits of this medical breakthrough are the first steps towards the cures to the plagues of humanity, and the future of repairing the human body.
Combined with proven cloning technology, the cost in life would be none... but the benifit would change the course of human existance.
I see a limitless horizon here guys, we are not just talking about Cancer or Brain and Spinal diseases...all of which are incurable at current. We are also talking about limb regeneration, organ regeneration, burn victoms, retardation remedies, elimination of genetic defects and impurities, bio-defence, and a deeper understanding of the human brain and it's abillities.
Regardless of your political spectrum, this is the single most important research of our time.
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