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Originally Posted by elstatec

sorry where did you get this bullshit from? And just because the pollution hasnt affected temperatures in the US doesnt mean US's pollution hasnt affected the worlds temperatures or atmosphere.

Now something more realistic:

[img]http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4329/instrumentaltemperaturerecord6.png[/img]
"This image shows the instrumental record of global average temperatures as compiled by the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia and the Hadley Centre of the UK Meteorological Office. Data set TaveGL2v was used. The most recent documentation for this data set is Jones, P.D. and Moberg, A. (2003) "Hemispheric and large-scale surface air temperature variations: An extensive revision and an update to 2001". Journal of Climate, 16, 206-223."




I cant believe how ignorant some of you are on this, it is just stupid that you stand so firm behind such a idiotic leader's every decision, such a wrong one on not ratifying the Kyoto Treaty.

Is it just me, or does that graph basically confirm what Tom said? If you read the data points, the variance at its highest and lowest point is roughly between 0.9-1.1 degrees C change.

Regarding the issue at hand; I do think global warming exists and something needs to be done about it. I live in the heart of Detroit, where automotive companies rule the land. I can tell you that they're busting their asses off to identify and engineer alternative energy sources. In fact, a new corporation just built a huge research facility a few blocks from me that is strictly reserved for alternative energy exploration. A buddy of mine that works at Ford was telling me that Toyota is working on a hybrid that will get between 70-100 MPG. I read an article that said something along the same lines ([url=http://www.business2.com/b2/web/articles/0,17863,1107812,00.html:aee19]article[/url:aee19]).

The beauty of a market driven economy is the huge incentive for such comapnies to find a sustainable & renewable alternative energy source. You think the oil companies make a lot of $? Wait until one of these companies finds a solution to the fossil fuel problem; they'll make more than any of us could even imagine.