[TomNewDelhi]

Medal of honor is a very cool game and i love it but what gets me is that it
is all about americans, ok americans were in the war, thats fair enough, Why
is it that in the whole of the game there is one english soldier
(who gets killed off eairly in the game anyway) Im not against americans or anything like that its just with these games give the impression that the americans won the war single handed![/u][/b]

[}361stINF{Saunders[1]]

maybe because ea is in us...and u got a point there..its called "Allied Assault
"

[Snipa]

TomNewDelhi your right. There was very little British in the game and no Russians. It looked like the war was just Americans vs Nazis. Not Allies vs Axis(even though i didnt expect Japan to be in it). But from the screenshots I have seen for Spearhead their should be more British encounters and some Russian levels.

[[NBK] G.I. Jerk]

Americans are very good at "revisionist" history.

They won WWI for us. (never mind they coward behind "neutrailty" until 1917... it started in 1914)

They won WWII for us as well. (never mention to a Yank the fact WWII began in September '39 and not as they believe that "date in infamy" Dec 7th 1941)

You see, American's (at least their foreign policy) only pick fights they are certain they can win outright. (they blundered on Veitnam)

In the last 50ish years they have invaded: (or sent military advisors to ensure victory)

Korea
Cuba
Panama
Haiti
El Slavador
Nicarauga
Veitnam
Somalia
Serbia (Yugosloavia et al.)
Iraq
Lybia (bombed Khadafi's residence)

AMONGST OTHERS!!! (that's just off the top of my head)

If you haven't noticed....Americans have a sort of "self denial" when it comes to the sins of their government. (and i do blame their gov't...not the populus... I DO like the people whilst depising their elected)

For example.... OOOoooOOo Iraq that BAD country has weapons of MASS destruction. So What? So does China (a sworn enemy) and Russia (can't be trusted) and recently in the news... N. Korea.

So how come America isn't starting wars with them?? Gee...maybe because they have no hope in hell of winning unscathed? (discounting N.Korea)

This is NOT an anti-American diatribe. I just call them as I see them.

On another note:... you mention the lack of other allied forces in the game. I mention the fact that EA Games screwed it up once AGAIN! According to EA it was the UNITED NATIONS that fought Hitler and not the Allies. Well I've got news for those historical IDIOTS at EA GAmes. The U.N. wasn't founded until the 1950's.

[img]http://control-alt-delete.ca/temp/un.jpg[/img]

oOo: hake: oOo:

[Miscguy]

Originally Posted by Snipa

There was very little British in the game and no Russians.

I was unaware that the russians fought on the western front. I had no clue they were involved with the landings at normandy, or any mission in the original game. I can understand the complaint about the british and canadians (supposedly all allied nations are displayed in spearhead). But the focus of the game, normandy and beyond on the western side the russians had nothing to do with.

Perhaps a better name is what your bitching about. How do

Medal of Honor: American Assualt
Medal of Honor: American Invasion
Medal of Honor: Only the Americans do Shit in This Game

Sound? Get over it its a game. Its not meant to be politically correct. If it were you would not be killings Germans/Nazi's. Because this day and age thats not PC.

[quote:48095]They won WWI for us. (never mind they coward behind "neutrailty" until 1917... it started in 1914)

They won WWII for us as well. (never mention to a Yank the fact WWII began in September '39 and not as they believe that "date in infamy" Dec 7th 1941)[/quote:48095]

Who was winning before 1914? No one. After? Allies.

Who was winning before 41? No one. Germans had stalled and Britian was defending it self without means to mount a proper offensive. After? Allied victory.

So what i see, is the Americans joining a war and giving such an overwhelming amount of power to the "allied" side that it in the end wins the war.

I wont mention that WW2 wasnt over until the Japanese had been defeated, with no "allied" personel used.

Perhaps we pick on Sadam because he has oil. China. No oil. N Korea. No oil. Russia, there no longer communist and are working to be a better country. To say there not trusted is a personal opinion. A few people in Russia can t be trusted but the country as a whole can be.

Or perhaps its because we dont want to start WW3. N. Korea, backed by China. Sadam, backed by... So we blow up N Korea, piss China off. By shear numbers China is a Challenge no country can take on by itself. Therefore the UN or "Allied" countries would need to join. Before you know it WW3. Perhaps foreign policy is designed to save the world from destroying itself. Sadam MAY have weapons of mass destruction, and does have the hatred to use them. N korea has them, no stopping it. Attack and piss them off and nukes start flying and we bomb the living piss out of them and WW3 is off and running.

Perhaps its time to realise that America polices the wrold because no one else will. Maybe they cant, maybe they cant talk as big as the US because they dont have the power to stand alone in a fight. Perhaps its time to realise without the US policing the world, the world would have massive wars all over the place. Hate us, love us, fear us, I dont care, as long as you respect us. We will cover your ass in extreme heat when the world is in turmoil. We are the only remaining massive super power, you may have to learn to deal with it.

you're really going to get flamed now miscguy

[Holly]

"On another note:... you mention the lack of other allied forces in the game. I mention the fact that EA Games screwed it up once AGAIN! According to EA it was the UNITED NATIONS that fought Hitler and not the Allies. Well I've got news for those historical IDIOTS at EA GAmes. The U.N. wasn't founded until the 1950's."

G.I. Jerk,

Here's some 'revisionist history' straight from the UN's website:

The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was first used in the "Declaration by United Nations" of 1 January 1942, during the Second World War, when representatives of 26 nations pledged their Governments to continue fighting together against the Axis Powers.

[img]http://control-alt-delete.ca/temp/un.jpg[/img]

This image that you say was created by the historical idiots at EA is a reproduction of the letter Gen. Dwight Eisenhower wrote and read to the troops before they disembarked. Geeze, what a moron Eisenhower was; in 1944 everyone knew that the United Nations didn't exist yet.

"They won WWII for us as well. (never mention to a Yank the fact WWII began in September '39 and not as they believe that "date in infamy" Dec 7th 1941)"

So, I guess when the Japanese invaded China in 1937 and Clair Chennault stood up the American Volunteer Group, commonly known as the Flying Tigers, it was what, a roadshow?


This is NOT an anti-ANYONE diatribe. I just call them as I see them, except I use facts to support my arguments.

[Cool Fool]

lol just wait till spearhead, then you'll be happy

[WARFALCONS]

OK JUST PLAY BF42 I MEAN THE WEAPONS ARE NOT THE BEST THE SCOPE MAY BE CRAP...BUT THEY SIAD IT WAS BASED ON A ARCADE GAME I MEAN IT AS MOST OF AXIS AND ALLIED FORCES AND U GET TO DO ALOT OF OTHER THINGS. I HAVE MOH AND BF42 I PLAY MOH MORE.BECAUSE THE WEAPONS OR BETTER. I JUST WHENT OFF THE SUBJECT

[WARFALCONS]

OK JUST PLAY BF42 I MEAN THE WEAPONS ARE NOT THE BEST THE SCOPE MAY BE CRAP...BUT THEY SIAD IT WAS BASED ON A ARCADE GAME I MEAN IT AS MOST OF AXIS AND ALLIED FORCES AND U GET TO DO ALOT OF OTHER THINGS. I HAVE MOH AND BF42 I PLAY MOH MORE.BECAUSE THE WEAPONS OR BETTER. I JUST WHENT OFF THE SUBJECT.

[virox]

just wait untill our mod is finished you will be able to play with the british, polish, american,... soldiers and even the belgian and dutch resistance.

[quickfist]

that sound pretty cool virox

when would it be finished???

[priest39]

Holly, MiscGuy, you're my heros. oOo:

I see all these foreign players with their various gripes about us Yanks. We're big bullies, or we're "overpaid, oversexed, and over here", biggrin:
and I'm not sure if they're subconciously resentful, or just ignorant. Either that or it might be that some people are brought up with a inbred opinion of certain other peoples. I for instance have an irrational dislike for Russians, even though most of the Russians I have met have been quite nice and have never tried to steal and copy my technology. ed: But a poor opinion has been bred into me from growing up American in the 70's and especially the 80's.
The French seem to hate everyone despite the fact that they've had their bacon out of the fire two times this century, ( not including the resistance fighters who fought and died for their country.)

Anyway, enough putting my foot in my mouth. My points are thus:

1. Everyone hates us Americans and says that we're Imperialist bullies. Yet when theres a problem, the turn to us. When they don't have, they stick their hand out to us. Then they turn their noses up at us and condemn us for taking so long. Or they tax us on the aid we send. Typical.

2. What was the name of this game again? Oh, yes, I remember, Medal of Honor. That would be after the Congressional Medal of Honor, right? Hey, GI Jerk, how many CMH's has Canada given out? None? Why's that? Oh, maybe because it's an American award? Hmmmm.

So you're playing a game made by an American company, named after an American award, exported to you from America and bought through a capitalistic free market system driven by America. Hmmm. Odd that. I wonder why it's about Americans?

[doomsday2002]

Ahhh another county bashing topic this has become...yawn.
Im a brit and proud of it,yes this GAME does imply that it was u.s v nazis we all know the facts get over it.
The reason for this is probably to do with marketing as in that more people buy the GAME in the u.s.
At the end of the day we all needed eachother ,if the russians wouldnt have started the eastern offensive then it would have been a damn sight harder to win the western front.
Anyways as a brit stop the yank bashing i consider them our closest and reliable ally.

dooms.