[Bleed_4_Me]

cH34t3rs = a$$Parr0t. I hate 1337 $p34k!

[MPowell1944]

nope. it has been rumored. if its true, then god help the cheaters.

mwuhahahaha! evil:

[Zoner]

I got one thing to say to all the hackers/cheaters/idiots out there:

[img]http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/jayassparrot.jpg[/img]


Zone

[Safeguard]

...sad sad people.

[pest]

Originally Posted by Safeguard

...sad sad people.

Uhh.......OK. oOo:

[pauls]

Everybody should stop making gay threats at each other. The truth is, that no on will do anything to anyone's computer, becuase most people will have firewalls and oter forms of protection. My IP is masked, so are anyone using most kinds of routers, so good luck. I find half the people making threats of hacking know nothing of computers. so just stop being so lame.

Also, hating cheaters won't make them go away. It will always be more popular to cheat, and easier to cheat than to anti-cheat. The fact is, cheaters create the cheats that you have to stop, and once you do, theres already a new cheat, just guess who doesn't know...the anti cheaters. As long as there is no aimbot for MOHAA then I think it will be alright.

fire1: anti cheaters that threaten people

actually the way i look at it, everyone has a different idea of cheating. every modder is in terms a hacker, because every hacker is a modder. it all depends on who they supply their releases to and for the purposes of what. you cant tell me that the medic skin with the big red plus on his head doesnt give you a nice target when sniping... the stupidest thing ea games did was allow forced models and not allow others to see your custom skin even if they dont have it installed. the struggle will always go on, and people will always bitch about it, but it will enver end. im not saynig this like an asshole or anything, but EVERYTHING has its holes... if you can make mods for a game, you can make cheats. and even if sv_pure "works" there will be a way around it. all sv_pure is going to do is hurt people who like to play with blood, custom scopes, custom crosshairs, sound mods, etc.

[Jasper]

Now this is different. A seemingly well thought out reply that doesnt invite mass flamage.

However...

1. sv_pure will not totally eliminate cheats I agree. But it will make it harder than just editing a config file.

2. You completely miss the point that without guys like you and Powell releasing the damn cheats we might not need need sv_pure in the first place.

3. You allso cant seem to grasp the very concept of integrity and honor. By its very theme MOH:AA draws more of the older crowd (30+) than another FPS MP like Q3 or Tribes. For us its about playing and having fun with friends more than having triple digit scores. The concept that cheaters need to cheat in order to be good is abhorent to us. Players who cheat in order to feel good about themselves are absolutely pathetic. You have no defense and you will never have ANY respect from honest players.

You momos want to hack the game and see what you can do then fine. But the minute you use that knowledge in_game or worse yet fucking release your knowledge than your just a common cheat, a detriment to the game and the gaming community as a whole.

I saw your MPC site before it was taken down and what I saw disgusted me.
Dozens of little boys, pussies if you will, wanting to know how to use your cheats so they can convince themselves they have a penis.

Your kind will never be accepted here or in the community in general.
If you have to cheat in a game then what the fuck does that say about your character IRL?

[img]http://www.fastattack.org/~jasper/cheat.jpg[/img]

[scotch]

Ditto to jaspers comments angel:

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1. It won't help as much as people expect.

2. There is a demand for cheats; there are a lot of players who enjoy cheating. You can't blame c00kie for cheaters just as you can't blame Pistol Manufacturers for shootings. Programmers don't make people cheaters, they just give the opportunity. Would there be cheating if MPC was shut down? You bet.

I think most 'hackers' do it just to show off their work, and don't really care if their cheat is used in-game. It's more of a respect issue. The better the cheats you make, the more respect you earn in that community.

3. Don't tell people they have no defense. There are always 2 sides. I doubt cheaters want respect from this community; they just play to have a laugh. You know, fun, the very reaction the game was made to garner.

Don't question his character in real life, it has nothing to do with what you do online and we both know that.

He is probably:

A) An excellent person
B) A very good problem solver.

Two admirable traits.

Cheating is here to stay; flaming cheaters only gives them less incentive to come over to the 'anti-cheating' community.

[Safeguard]

And on another note, the MPC site wasn't shut down, it apparently got overloaded and is now undergoing maintenance to account for this extra usage.

[M [84thUSMC] S dak125]

Very well said Jasper evil:. I agree with most of the points you made there. I'm just dissapointed that MPC isn't down for good. It would have stalled the newer moron cheaters on how to get cheats and how to use them. Unfortunately it'll be back up, or another one like it would have taken it's place. M16:. I'm glad places like [url=http://www.mohadmin.com:afb33]mohadmin have opened up[/url:afb33]. It gives the anti cheater guys a place to discuss current situations. As well as working with other admins as how to get rid of known cheaters and IP's cool:. -DaK

[MPowell1944]

Jasper :

try doing your homework. i never RELEASED any files. retard. i dont want you saying this and fuckin' up what respect im earning back now.

[Jasper]

Originally Posted by MPowell1944

Jasper :

try doing your homework. i never RELEASED any files. retard. i dont want you saying this and fuckin' up what respect im earning back now.

That wasnt so much directed at you Powell or it wasnt meant to be anyway.
Actually I didnt mean to go overboard like that when all CM did was give his views on the subject. I didnt start cussing untill I got into the little kiddies who wanted to use the cheats. Thats what I meant by character. The ppl who feel they must cheat in order to have fun with a game.

I'll reiterate: Nobody has a problem with someone who hacks a game just to see what they can do. The problem is with asshats who use that info not to understand how the game works but to appear superior to ppl who dont use cheats. Some of you "hackers" take pride in releasing that info for just that purpose.

And I stand by my statement...you guys who are oh so proud of your ability to circumvent the game and then make the info public are the reason we need sv_pure in the first place. If I cant use a blood mod or a scope mod because of it its the cheaters Im going to be pissed at. Redsoccerdevil has enormous talent in his own right but he doesnt use it to "cheat" the game.

You guys want our respect? Do what Powell says hes doing and find ways to prevent the cheats in the first place, not add to them.

Thats all I have to say on the subject.

[img]http://www.fastattack.org/~jasper/cheat.jpg[/img]

[MPowell1944]

okay cool. thanks for clearing that up.

yes, i am as we speak coming up with ideas on how to stop the cheaters in their tracks. lets see. there is AutoKick, Delator and DogTagz. what else needs to be done? any ideas? i am welcome to all ideas. i know some programming, so i could see what i could do. thanks