Think about this if you hate the new granade launcher.......

The Bookerman

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First of all, I think the Gewehrgranate(sp?) is the dog's bollocks! (a mauser that fires grenades = sweet!) People bitching about it being a n00b weapon are talking nonsense because as we all know the mauser's probably one of the hardest weapons to use and takes a lot of practice to become efficient with it. So stop yer bitchin'!
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The average n00b tends to gravitate towards the MG's so with that in mind can you imagine what Spearhead would be like if they combined the g-launcher with one of the other weapons? What weapon exactly? Ummm......the SGT44!

"The Gewehrgranatgerät ("rifle grenade device"), also called Schiessbecher ("firing cup"), of the Wehrmacht could be attached to the Mauser 98K rifle, the Gewehr 43, the StGw 44 assault rifle and the FG 42 paratrooper rifle."

Read more here:
http://www.geocities.com/Augusta/8172/panzerfaust8.htm

11-10-2002, 02:11 PM

i don't think actual power has anything to do with it, "whohoo a grenade launcher!" is going to get their attention just because it sounds cool, it wouldn't matter if you walked slow as hell because it still "sounds" good.

Sniper Wolf [USAR] · 11-10-2002, 02:13 PM

what he said evil:

11-10-2002, 02:14 PM

but,
allies don't have one although they did have a Garand version,
and Germans didn't issue every man with grenades, there were only 1 or 2 grenadiers per squad, not 3 grenadiers per 4 men.

RUNGSI · 11-10-2002, 02:25 PM

You know, I dont think during the war an allied soilder stood up and said, "hey. Thats not fair you noob!"

The rifle grenades are no differant then someone using a sniper rifle.
Snipers have a better advantage. They have a 1 shot kill if on target.
Rifle grenades on the other hand, have to be used at the right angle and adjust to the angle of its drop.
plus, there reload is slower.

If i see a enemy target. I could take them out a lot faster with a sniper rifle then with a rifle grenade.

Plus the fact that the M1 is very accurate now and has 8 shots per clip.
Allied weapons have been beefed up too..

The rules of the game have not changed. Better think about that.
Kill the other person best way and quick as you can.
Dont make yourself a target.
Sorry for all you guy who like to rush out into the battle and find yourself getting blown apart by a rifle grenade.

At this point. I hope you dont buy the game.
Be 1 less whinning bitch ass punk I have to play with.
Go back to Counter-Strike!
(speaking in future and other posts people have made. Not you guys)

The Bookerman · 11-10-2002, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Strik0r

i don't think actual power has anything to do with it, "whohoo a grenade launcher!" is going to get their attention just because it sounds cool, it wouldn't matter if you walked slow as hell because it still "sounds" good.

Strik0r, I'd disagree with you there. The whole "just because it sounds cool" argument should be applied to the sniper rifles, for some reason lots of people(esp. newbies) think it's "cool" to be a sniper, hence the amount of ghey individuals with names like "l33t Sn1p3R" (No offence Wolf!)

No, the people that bitch about the Gewehrgranate usually do so after you've smacked them in the face with one of the grenades, so they are complaining about the power of the nades.

To them I say the following - STFU and just play!

Totenkopf · 11-10-2002, 03:11 PM

Bullshit, the n00bs are gonna use it. Hell, they won't even go through their five grenades before they kill themselves trying to kill other peeps. C'mon they're n00bs. hake:

The Bookerman · 11-10-2002, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Totenkopf

Bullshit, the n00bs are gonna use it. Hell, they won't even go through their five grenades before they kill themselves trying to kill other peeps. C'mon they're n00bs. hake:

Ok, someone kills him/herself with the Gewehrgranate.......so what? What's your point? oOo: People blow themselves up with grenades all the time - gonna bitch about that?

Stop moaning about weapons and enjoy the game!

ninty · 11-10-2002, 04:06 PM

[quote="The Bookerman":64254]

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Originally Posted by Totenkopf

Bullshit, the n00bs are gonna use it. Hell, they won't even go through their five grenades before they kill themselves trying to kill other peeps. C'mon they're n00bs. hake:

Ok, someone kills him/herself with the Gewehrgranate.......so what? What's your point? oOo: People blow themselves up with grenades all the time - gonna bitch about that?

Stop moaning about weapons and enjoy the game![/quote:64254]

Totenkopf is right. Total n00b weapon. Grenades are different. Their on a fuse, the do not explode on impact. If I go into a server I don't want to be shot from 2 feet away by some shithead who doesn't know what the fuck hes doing while killing himself at the same time.

Klaha · 11-10-2002, 04:12 PM

I agree, it is a n00b weapon. I thought it would be a cool weapon at first but once I used it and I seen how others use it, I know it is cheap.

Someone has 5 nades, loads one on, runs around and waits to cross another, one shot of the nade and the person is dead. worse than the shotgun and less likly to kill yourself like rocket.

I doubt most are not going to be using the actual mauser. And I will respect teh players I see using it with tact.

As for bitching about weapons and enjoying the game. If the game is unbalanced (like a lot of people using this weaapon would make it) the game becomes far less enjoyable.

The Bookerman · 11-10-2002, 04:15 PM

[quote=ninty9]

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Originally Posted by "The Bookerman":4efa6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totenkopf

Bullshit, the n00bs are gonna use it. Hell, they won't even go through their five grenades before they kill themselves trying to kill other peeps. C'mon they're n00bs. hake:

Ok, someone kills him/herself with the Gewehrgranate.......so what? What's your point? oOo: People blow themselves up with grenades all the time - gonna bitch about that?

Stop moaning about weapons and enjoy the game!

If I go into a server I don't want to be shot from 2 feet away by some shithead who doesn't know what the fuck hes doing while killing himself at the same time.[/quote:4efa6]

So the real problem here is that you don't like getting killed by "n00bs"..............? I suggest that you uninstall MOHAA coz you'll find that it happens a lot - deal with it!

Totenkopf · 11-10-2002, 04:24 PM

Playing a game with a bunch of suicide grenadiers (sp?), isn't exactly my idea of a good time. Let's all just strap bombs on are backs and chase each other around.

Listen, the weapon has tons of potential if used by someone with a brain. But unfortunately, there seems to be a serious lack of those kind of peeps on the MOH servers.

Thermopyle · 11-10-2002, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Totenkopf

Let's all just strap bombs on are backs and chase each other around.

Now we're talking!!! evil:

These discussions are pretty much a waste of time. For one, I haven't seen people have a lot of success with it (maybe that will change with more practice). I have been in one of the open windows on the Druckkamern map and had a Nazi across the way fire all his nades at the window. He sure tore it up outside, but no damage to me inside cause he couldnt get the nades through the window. If he had had a rocket, I would have been dead.

Two, even if people are good with it, its just another challenge to overcome. But maybe nobody wants a challenge anymore. It seems some people would only enjoy the game if their opponents were hogtied and drugged, so they could frag em with their fists if they wanted.

And three, if you are looking for strong weapons on Allied side, what about that Russian SMG with 40+ rounds? Don't you think noobs will flock to that if on Allied? If they know how to get to it. I find a lot of people asking, where do you get the new weapons!!!

Come on, people. Quit this senseless griping, adjust your tactics to the game, and find new and better ways to frag people.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that the admin can make that weapon (along with others) unavailable.

¤[4thPHiL]¤ Machalnik · 11-10-2002, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RUNGSI

Plus the fact that the M1 is very accurate now and has 8 shots per clip.
Allied weapons have been beefed up too..

...oh so you mean they made the guns more factually accurate???

Real M1 Garands (as opposed to video game Garands) have 8 round enblock type magazines. 4 right hand twist barrel rifling firing a .30-60 cartridge gives a CMSR (that's "Center Mass Stopping Ratio" for those that don't know) of close to 100% at 500 yards? What's that mean in English? It means if you put a .30-06 in to a guys chest with a Garand (which is very do-able) at 500 yards, it will basically kill them! A Garand is and should be accurate and very powerful, anybody that doesn't believe that should go shoot one!

So, what's the reason why there's no nade launcher for the M1's in game? Cuz that argument sounds more like somebody has a problem getting owned by people playing Allies.

The Bookerman · 11-10-2002, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Thermopyle

Two, even if people are good with it, its just another challenge to overcome. But maybe nobody wants a challenge anymore. It seems some people would only enjoy the game if their opponents were hogtied and drugged, so they could frag em with their fists if they wanted.

Come on, people. Quit this senseless griping, adjust your tactics to the game, and find new and better ways to frag people.

I agree with you 100%!