The GREATEST idea ever

Albow0001 · 08-20-2001, 06:30 AM

I would like to thank Ludacris for this idea.
I was reading his post on the developer forum, it was about a random map generator in MOH:AA.
Now, everyone dismissed the idea, thought it was dumb. Wouldn't it be cool if it was possible??? http://tarot.telefragged.com/gensurf/
Have a look at that. That is the basis of my entire rant here.
The idea is like this. For all those who played AoE, you know what i'm talking about here.
Now, say you had a random map generator in MOH:AA. How would it work??? I'll tell you:
1: You set the settings you wish for on the map, thru a sliding scale sort of idea, the sliding scale makes it a little easier, because you only need so many settings. The settings you change are:
Map size - small, medium, large, huge.
Map type - beach, bocage, country, forest
Season - Summer, Fall, winter, Spring
Enemy Population - Handful, platoon, company, division
Buildings - None, few, some, many
Trees - None, few, some, many

Well, this being rough as it is, that is all i can think of right now. Now, the magic happens. You click ok, and the random map generator starts.
Using a program the like of Gensurf, the game generates a map the size of which you set earlier, ie. anywhere from only 2048 pixels, up to maybe 16284 pixels.
Now, it chooses from one of four set patterns. Beach may use a set colour scheme, and may always have a bunker or two, as well as cliffs at one end (take a look at gensurf's ability to do things like that)
Bocage will be low, rolling hills with bocage every hundred yards, forming a latticework.
Etc, etc, you get the idea there.
The only thing season changes is what type of thing is going on. Maybe there is a 50 percent chance that in spring it is raining when you start up. In winter, it may snow. With the season set, the generator chooses a random type of texture scheme, using mostly snowy in winter, leavy ground in fall, muddy in spring or just grass in summer.
Anyway, moving from there: The enemy population just places random enemies, probably in groups of threes, and the number varies, a la Rogue Spear.
The buildings and trees are set prefabs, maybe ten different tree and building types, and the generator just randomly places them, the intensity as according to the user's choice.

Then, you start into the map. All the stuff you wanted is there.
HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE????
Can you just imagine that? It is all perfectly possible!!! I REALLY want to see this implemented now!!! My god, that would earn huge scorings from game reviews 2015!!! You'd have a technologically unique game feature, one no other 3d shooter has every had before...
That is at least 10 percent extra in the bag on any rating system...

2015, please, listen to me... And, everyone, let your voice be heard too. Stand up and demand!!! God, that would be amazing!

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Maverick · 08-20-2001, 06:41 AM

wow that is a great idea..

Albow0001 · 08-20-2001, 06:45 AM

Thanks. I read Luddy's post, and i went
"THAT MUST HAPPEN!"
And i thought up a rough way for it to be entirely possible. I hope at least 2015 will take notice of this. That's why i want this to hype everyone up....If only they really did include this....Greatest. Game. Ever.

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blade · 08-20-2001, 06:50 AM

I back you up 100% Albow.

It would make the game more enjoyable and I would be playing the game A LOT longer..

Sometimes I usually beat the game and dont touch it for 10 months.. If you had the map generator.. I would playing it all the time..

*yells to albow*

I'll get you a a rum and random level maker, with a garand chaser!

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Hans · 08-20-2001, 07:00 AM

SOF2 has something like this, but at the cost of Multiplayer. So which would you rather have M-player, or more single-player? MOH:AA is to far into development to put it in random level generator anyway, so it's a great idea, but it cost too much, and has been brought up (atleast for this game) too late.

[This message has been edited by Hans (edited August 20, 2001).]

Obergrenadier · 08-20-2001, 07:26 AM

well there is always the add-on

EDIT: also i think they should hold off till 2002 to release the game in order to give it an extensive beta test... remember WWIIO?

[This message has been edited by Obergrenadier (edited August 20, 2001).]

BallisticWookie · 08-20-2001, 08:27 AM

I would personally prefer more single player. Dont get me wrong multiplayer will be great, thing is there are those of us who wont enjoy MP as much because of our absolutely shit connections and the fact that every few minutes you suffer from really bad lag or packetloss. Thats a great idea Albow/Ludy, I really hope 2015 take into consideration this kind of function, if not in the first release maybe in an update or addon pack ? The addition of a random map generator will add a completely new dimension for the SP game, not only would you be able to fight it out more with a squad, you may actually even be able to fight a full blown battle which would be fanstastic. Please think about it 2015/EA.

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Albow0001 · 08-20-2001, 08:51 AM

My thoughts exactly.
Hey, could you unlock the "Albow change your avatar thread? I really wanted to get in the final word....I had a really good reason, thenyou locked it...

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BallisticWookie · 08-20-2001, 09:13 AM

Actually I didnt lock it, I'll see what I can do...would you like this topic to be moved to the Board of Developers as it would have a better chance of being seen there by elmagoo or one of the 2015 boys ??

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Maverick · 08-21-2001, 12:24 AM

change ur sig back albow that one sux

08-21-2001, 05:02 AM

yes, it´s horrible

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Hans · 08-21-2001, 07:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BallisticWookie:
I would personally prefer more single player. Dont get me wrong multiplayer will be great, thing is there are those of us who wont enjoy MP as much because of our absolutely shit connections and the fact that every few minutes you suffer from really bad lag or packetloss. Thats a great idea Albow/Ludy, I really hope 2015 take into consideration this kind of function, if not in the first release maybe in an update or addon pack ? The addition of a random map generator will add a completely new dimension for the SP game, not only would you be able to fight it out more with a squad, you may actually even be able to fight a full blown battle which would be fanstastic. Please think about it 2015/EA.

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I too feel that added single player experience is a great idea, but I also feel it cost far too much. From the example of SOF2, it has taken much resources and time from the development team, so much, that they had to omit Multiplayer. I know more single player is a very good thing, but I feel that Multiplayer, by it's allowing you to fight human opponents, gives a far less predictable challenge. Also, you have to think of all the kids (that's why EA wants TEEN rating) that will buy the game - no blood, maybe they can overlook it no multiplayer, the game gets thrown out the window - Some of you couldn't care less about the kids, but obviously EA does. I'd say, this is the kind of thing for an add-on, by then SOF2 will be out, and the developer will have an example to draw upon.

Anyway, thats how I feel about this whole thing, but I'm sure some of you would rather they just kick the kids in the ass, and take out Multiplayer. I think I'll just wait for the add-on.

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colonel hogan · 08-21-2001, 07:42 AM

Well I think its a brilliant idea and it would certainly make a game last for years without getting stale. I wonder though would it be too difficult under the present format for 2015 to implement. Certainly if it cant be done now cant see why it couldnt be put in later as mod or something. Anyway Ballistic I wonder if you could list it in the developers forum its worth considering!

InstantAmmo · 08-21-2001, 09:23 AM

Brilliant!!

Thats an awesome Idea albow, like Wookie said, you should be able to fight a squad/ platoon sized battle with your squad.

Would someone be able to do it in a mod or something like that. Something like the gore mod.

intrestedviewer · 08-21-2001, 11:32 AM

brilliant is it may be, im thinking mohaa wont be to well known for its mplayer. sure hope i am wrong though. i think were thinking its gonna be like the best mplayer ever but im getting more down to earth here and i dont think its gonna be to great. I still think its single player will be the best ever though.

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