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11-18-2002, 07:30 PM
It is fairly frustrating, though, when you look at the potential and compare to the reality. Not to say we haven't heard this argument for the thousandth time, but don't be too critical of someone venting disapproval. The MOH series for the PC (AA & SH) could have been tremendous, however the time lock EA put on 2015 allowed the product to contain the essential items required to create enough hype and "wow" comments to reap profit.
But let's be honest, while this is a great game, the fact remains it was a locked time project to be "completed enough to make a buck." Which is certainly another reason why there is no SDK as of yet. This community can and will make a TC mod that pushes the game to where it should have been in the beginning, especially in the area of multiplayer. I would imagine the SDK will be developed and released only when EA has another product that will be magnitized to attract your wallet... to keep your money and attention.
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11-18-2002, 08:21 PM
[quote:46cd6]But let's be honest, while this is a great game, the fact remains it was a locked time project to be "completed enough to make a buck."[/quote:46cd6]
Oh you know this for a FACT huh? I'm glad you've got company and insider information that allows you to make this comment.
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11-18-2002, 08:37 PM
I wish people would quit judging the game until they put out a patch. The fact is all of us are to blame for the bugs in the game. We(Fans of the Original of everygame) want new maps/missions/skins/weapons/sounds/etc. as fast as the company can put it out. You all know you'd have bought Spearhead 6 months ago if they had put it on a shelf with a UPC on it. Don't bullshit yourself and say you wouldn't. So until WE(the consumer) start demanding a higher quality and allow them more time to fully develop it. until the they will just keep giving us whatever they can churn out as fast as they can as long as its tolerable.
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11-19-2002, 12:01 AM
[quote:98da5]Oh you know this for a FACT huh? I'm glad you've got company and insider information that allows you to make this comment.[/quote:98da5]
I've been trolling this board for the duration of it's existence... and only now started posting. "Way back when," I read the Developer's forum every day and yes, around the time the AA demo came out, 2015 basically hinted that they didn't have the time they wanted to work on the project. They gave the impression that the constraint of time was there and especially tight.
So to respond to your ignorant comment, no, I do not have solid company or insider information. But I do know what was told to this community, straight from the horse's mouth.
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11-19-2002, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mewprin
...they didn't have the time they wanted to work on the project. They gave the impression that the constraint of time was there and especially tight.
So to respond to your ignorant comment, no, I do not have solid company or insider information. But I do know what was told to this community, straight from the horse's mouth.
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OMG!!!
You mean to say companies put deadlines on projects in order to get it out the door on time to make optimum profit?
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!@211
MEWPRIN IS MY NEW GOD! WHERE CAN I BUY STOCK IN YOUR COMPANY MAN! YOU'RE A MARKETING GENIUS!
Why do you feel the need to state the obvious and use it to justify saying this game is unfinished. Of course they didn't have all the time they wanted to complete it. If you ever get a job which requires skill you'll understand that deadlines are needed.
I'm sure if the game was pushed back until you were pissing in a bedpan in some rest home it would be the greatest game to ever exist. Sadly that would be:
A) Incredibly inefficient
B) Incredibly poor marketing
Go back to playing games; you're not very good at bringing up justified points which would be detrimental toward a game, or a company for that matter
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11-19-2002, 01:41 AM
hey symbol guy, take it down a few. your a 9 im gonna ask you to take it down to about a 4 , thanks.
*note: not all of us are computer geniuses. its not nice to be condescending towards others who dont know as much as yourself.
*note 2: ppl like to complain. and in these forums the community likes to vent their frustrations and express their various opinions that are from both sides of the fence. =)
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11-19-2002, 09:02 AM
The symbol guy is right. If you dont put hard deadlines on a project, it will never go 'live'. I have worked on two very large database system implementations in the last 4-5 years, and let me tell you, you are never ready. Finally, someone needs to step up and say, "on this date we are going gold, whether the product is ready or not." And amazingly, the date is met and patches come out to fix the issues that couldnt be addressed. If EA had more time to fix bugs ,they might have had time to implement a prone postion, but that would have meant more testing and more bugs and more time. Where do you draw the line? If you take too much time to make the game perfect, its out of date when it hits the shelves.
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11-19-2002, 09:53 AM
The Artist Formerly Knows As Whoever He Was took the words right out of my mouth.
2015 were DEVELOPERS. THey were NOT suits working on this. They did not have investors and executives to worry about day in and out. They were taked to develop, the suits are tasked to PRODUCE.
Of course they want more time for their "baby".
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11-19-2002, 12:26 PM
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i'm so...very...proud of you zoner!
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amen zoner AMEN!
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11-19-2002, 02:32 PM
This is off topic, but what I find funny is that I believe you are all grown adults here and all this whole forum is based on is spamming like little children. This is the first day I have come to this board in a few weeks and everytime all I read is grown men insulting others that try and start a thread. I agree with Sniper-X, but he shouldn't have posted that here knowing that all he is going to get is spammed.Funny thing is, I picture all you guys overweight sitting in front of the pc in your tighty whiteys and a wife beater with a huge beer stain just waiting anxiously for someone to post something that you can spam about, LOL. Well you guys can spam me all you want cause this will be the last time I read these forums.
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11-19-2002, 03:04 PM
LOL - OK, cya.
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11-19-2002, 03:13 PM
lol, whoa there...
All I said was that 2015 hinted at being somewhat upset with the time lock placed on them by EA. Of course, I'm sure every developer wishes for more time, but the impression was given that the time constraint was somewhat unreasonable for the scope of the project.
I wasn't trying to shed any brilliant insight into how the business world works. For god's sake, lighten up and read into comments more...
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11-19-2002, 04:10 PM
Trust me - as soon as someone "reads into" your comments, then you're going to get pissy and say someone is putting words into your mouth.
Lets be real here. This game isnt UT2003, or ever Battlefield. The amount of scripting and developing needed to bring this game about isn't anything SPECTACULAR that other games couldn't do. I dont think it's unfair for EA to think that supposed "professional" developers can bring a game in on time in the time they were given. I SERIOUSLY doubt EA is out to sabotage a group of people just to be dicks and to "screw the consumer". Cmon. You really think people are going to buy shit games? You think EA would rather waste profits on a game noone is going to buy just to make sure that the internet community has SOMETHING to complain about.
Get over it. As I've said, for all its faults, EA and 2015 turned out a good product with some bugs in it. Are the bugs SO HUGE that they even come close to taking away the enjoyment of the game as a whole. No fucking way.
Sincerly -
Anderson, black male, medium sized posting from his job at work.
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11-19-2002, 05:39 PM
[quote:aae46]as soon as someone "reads into" your comments, then you're going to get pissy and say someone is putting words into your mouth[/quote:aae46]
You're exactly right. For I never once said mohaa was a bad game, lol.. geez.
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