machineguns, the uber weapons

spear-in-my-head · **machineguns, the uber weapons -** 11-25-2002, 01:54 AM

i was on a server and, for the first time, pretty much everyone had a machinegun on the other team, i was using a garand, since i pretty much always use a garand or other rifle, but man they are accurate, and they are automatic. it seems like there is no good distance on most levels where i can out do a guy with a machinegun if he is doing 1 shot bursts. i can't tell if the server had a realism patch or whatever, but it was annoying

what mod makes it so machineguns aren't so lethal and accurate at long range, so that rifles are good to use on medium ranged maps, like brest. or maybe is it default spearhead with realism turned off? im going to be hosting spearhead games at my next lan and i dont want everyone to use only machine guns and nothing else. thanks for any info

Old Reliable · 11-25-2002, 02:00 AM

apparently everyone thinks WW2 was like vietnam, where everyone had a machine gun, i hate it too but nothing beats nailin one of the machine gun losers with a nice rifle shot in the chest angel:

Thermopyle · 11-25-2002, 02:18 AM

Both the MG and the SMG are way too accurate now. Apparently EA again listened to the unskilled mob, and instead of maintaining any historical accuracy, instead fed into the needs of the hapless.

Not only are the autos more accurate, but they racheted down the rifle damage as well. So now you usually need 2 hits with a rifle for a kill. Zoiks!!!

Oh well... oOo:

WolfHound · 11-25-2002, 03:13 AM

I agree, the MG and SMG seem slightly more accurate in SH than in the original MoH:AA. Pistols also seem to be more deadly. I, too, use the rifle and both Axis and Allies and hate getting hit from such a weird distance with an MG or SMG.

mwah:

11-25-2002, 03:33 AM

slightly? i now make medium range shots with pistol and smg with ease, hopefully red's CKR will clean that up (also a good oppertunity to reduce mg accuracy)

spear-in-my-head · 11-25-2002, 04:52 AM

maybe ea made smgs and mgs more accurate because of snipers? the rifle should be the sniper-taker-outer, if you aren't a sniper yourself imo. dunno though

and then limiting classes like DOD has done is a good thing too. like someone said on this board, limiting the MGS especially, and mostly rifleman would make up the team. that would be a lot of fun imo. i wish there was some kind of mod i could do, id like a mod in time for my lan this coming friday heh

Judas · 11-25-2002, 05:28 AM

[quote="Old Reliable":56772]apparently everyone thinks WW2 was like vietnam, where everyone had a machine gun[/quote:56772]

LOL !!! biggrin:

plfromden · 11-25-2002, 08:33 AM

Yeah, I don't understand why it now often takes 2 shots with rifle to get a kill.

Another thing that unbalances the game in favor of machine guns is the fast running speed.

Zoner · 11-25-2002, 09:54 AM

I'm a rifleman, and I'll always be a rifleman. Period.

Zone

Sindonesia · 11-25-2002, 10:21 AM

I use whatever weapon gets the job done. I'm trying to live so I use the Machine gun and the sub. When it comes down to me and you, you better believe it's gonna be you. biggrin:

Bane · 11-25-2002, 10:53 AM

It depends mostly on the map and what the other players are using. I'd prefer to use a rifle, but you'd be a fool bringing a rifle to a MG party, unless you have mad skillz. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em...then beat 'em at their own game. evil:

11-25-2002, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thermopyle

Both the MG and the SMG are way too accurate now. Apparently EA again listened to the unskilled mob, and instead of maintaining any historical accuracy, instead fed into the needs of the hapless.

Not only are the autos more accurate, but they racheted down the rifle damage as well. So now you usually need 2 hits with a rifle for a kill. Zoiks!!!

Oh well... oOo:

you're joking, right?
every time I used an SMG it sprayed all over the place, hardly accurate.

maybe you ran into a modded server because once I found an SH server where teh BAR and STG were accurate and fired like an M-134 minigun with little recoil. pretty gay.

11-25-2002, 11:01 AM

they're a LOT more accurate now, i don't know how much the sten is vs the other ones but i seem to get sniped the most with it.

Bazooka_Joe · 11-25-2002, 12:22 PM

Heh, Strik0r, I just read your location, under ur posts. biggrin:

pvt_hz · 11-25-2002, 08:35 PM

Spearhead its cool as it is, and as strik0r said, it has some bugs, like now u can snipe whit the pistol! oOo: hehehehe but anyway the only gay here is Punk and Pop music Hail IRON MAIDEN!!! and metal!!