Shotguns For Those Who Do Not Understand There Use - Page 4

Airborne Butters · 12-07-2002, 11:42 PM

What I'm trying to think of is that people who have headphones can here a bird shit from 2 miles away. I have 5.1 surround sound and can hear a bird crap from 3 miles away. I changed weapon firing sounds around, so they don't sound like un-realistic stock crap! Sorry for having taste. You have a better computer than me, faster FPS so you must be a cheater!

vVolf · 12-07-2002, 11:56 PM

Who is the cheater? Who has a better computer than you? What the f**k are you talking about? Jesus! hake:

Shenlong · 12-08-2002, 10:33 AM

yes young one, JESUS IS ALIVEAAAA!

KTOG · 12-08-2002, 12:01 PM

If you can't take out a shotgunner with your rifle or other weapon, you still need more practice and quit your crying.

Matrf

[quote="Max Raven":04c1f]This post is for t hose who have nevered actually used a shotgun in real life as a member of a real life military unit, police force, or prision reactionary team.

Why is the shotgun in Mohaa? Simple: it is a powerful close quarters combat weapon with a enough force to stop even the biggest light skined targets (humans).

It was not intended to be a medium or long range weapon. It is was meant to deal massive damage at short range. If used properly in real life or in Mohaa it is a great weapon for close quarters combat.

Used correctly, especially with fragmention or concussion grenades, a shotgun wielder can easliy clear a small room or bunker of emenies.

So what the hell do I know? I have had the honor with serving with greatest army in the world in combat: US Army. My unit succesfully used shotguns within their squads for clearing bunkers in a land far from home over 10 years ago.

|RR| Max Raven[/quote:04c1f]

EA don't care about the use of guns in real life because its a game.
Pepeol don't like shogun because its a cheap gun. Can you understand that?

12-08-2002, 03:25 PM

Interesting discussion.

I think the point needs clarified - the real problem people have with the shotgun is not actually the shotgun itself, but with the other weapons. Realism mods fix this.

For example, if I am a rifleman and am getting rushed by someone using a shotgun, in some circumstances the only thing you can do is to be patient, take aim, and fire. Now, if you do that in the retail version of the game you will most likely end up dead, because it will take you multiple shots to the chest (which should each be kill shots), while the shotgunner will need only to fire once. This is a bit unbalanced, and makes it easier to "rush" at people with a shotgun.

Now, I don't blame anybody for that other than EA. We all know the game isn't perfect, and so shotgunners are going to have a slight edge in certain circumstances that they otherwise wouldn't have - you'll just have to deal with it.

It is rather interesting at times, however, when I go on some servers and see everybody using shotguns, and these people then complain at the "campers" who stay back with their rifles. They are only doing what they can on a server that isn't running realism. The only way to combat a whole platoon of shotgunners is to negate their advantage by keeping a distance. I've been on a couple of servers where people accuse players who do this of "camping".

Mr_nStuff · 12-08-2002, 03:32 PM

Butter Ball, I never said your sound mod was a cheat.. I said some sound mods are considered cheating. I then said yours would ONLY be considered cheating if any of the sounds you modded turned out to be more easy to detect.. IE: Louder, or more distinct than the originals.

Keep in mind people. I've had the same argument with no bush hacks.. Everyone insisted it was not a cheat for the longest time.

JBird · 12-09-2002, 03:33 AM

im gonna make a spearhead sound cheat consisting of the russian "woohoo" aka "booooorrraaaahhhhhhh" and bind it so i can spam it. this will then force the nazis to come out and surrender because their ears will be bleading.

Bazooka_Joe · 12-09-2002, 10:27 AM

Alot of you people are lucky I'm not a moderator. You are all blowing this crap out of porportion. STOP getting on each others asses and stick to the subject, not each other. You'll soon find yourself banned if you keep this crap up, guys.

As for the shotty, yes, it's very overweighed compared to other weapons, but it's not impossible to stop. If you see someone using it, and they're pissing you off, retaliate; use the bazooka! Snipe em! But please, don't go off on a rant saying the weapons sucks, the player sux, etc. It gets old real quick, guys.

wintersforge · 12-09-2002, 10:50 AM

shotgun is great on some maps...not all mind you. its a weapon applicable only on certain maps. I rarely see good shotgunners on DV, unless they stick to the buildings and prowl the confined areas.

IMO shotgun is not a n00b weapon. you hvae 5 shots...make em count...in between the pump action i can be riddled with smg bullets. so cover is crucial.

Butters ive played with you many times. If you abhore shotguns, then as peeps have suggested, play realism (but deal with mgs out the wazoo).

A funny story from last nights antics on the .|a.M|. (66.151.108.103). Some guy was bitching about the shotguns on Stalingrad. He said it was easy to kill with them. MeatHookJustice replied, "Why would you want to use a weapon that is hard to kill with?"......