[JOkeR]

Learn to stafe and the shotty isn't that bad.

This is a DM tourny? If it is, what's the problem. I never use the shotgun in DM. I use the machine gun and AIM for the HEAD. I think aim and a machine gun is a better combo than mediocre aim and the slow firing rate of the shotgun. I usually make guys miss
on the 1st attempt anyway. And by the time they chamber the 2nd round, a bullet is in their brain. And if I happen to screw it up and they kill me with a 2nd blast, it's my fault. It's no way they should still be alive to pull the trigger again after the 1st miss.


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My Real Doll broke in 2 days. Thus the pain I Bring-ith!!

[This message has been edited by JOkeR (edited December 29, 2001).]

[intrestedviewer]

^ what he said
also if ur being chased by a shotgunner u gotta drop the suicide nade

[This message has been edited by intrestedviewer (edited December 29, 2001).]

[Death]

I hate shotgun whoares. She shotgun is for pussies as i see it. Get a real gun, i mean cmon, this ain't Duke Nukem, this is WW2 am i right?

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Not yer average death.

[Lone_Wolf]

So right as it can be.

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5th SS Panzer Division Wiking

[[5DV]Scorpion]

Bah, shotguns and rockets don't scared me, sure they get the cheap kills, but in the long run, my score is like triple theirs. So go ahead and use 'em 'till your blue in the face.

Scorp.

[FuBarGrn]

I am going to be Participating in the Tourney on Jan 07..And I hope the Shotgun is Banned from the Competition.This weapon requires no skill or Precision to aim....There have been incidents where people have been blasted by a shotgun real far away.I do not know if this was a fluke or just plain luck,but I think the Tourney should focus more on skill and Precision,than "cheap shots"....the bazooka however is another story...If people want to use this weapon in the Tourney,than they should go ahead and Forfeit Right now.The Cyclic Rate is so bad that is FAR otweighs any possibility of "cheap kills"...I mean sure he/she might kill one person,but the smoke trail gives away his/her position....And somone else can run up and blast them before they can load another round...but due to Fairness,I think it should be banned Also.
To the Moderators and Hosts of the Tournament:PLEASE BAN THESE TWO WEAPONS,to make the Gameplay "Fair"....Let the titles and awards go to the guys who WORK for their Frags....

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MEIN EHRE HEISST TREUE !!!!!!!!!!
Draufga"gertum=DAS REICH!! 2nd SS Panzer Div.

[Lone_Wolf]

I hope they do that but it gonna make many assholes angry.

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5th SS Panzer Division Wiking

Bah...

I just played on a server and everyone in it used the shotgun exclusively.

At first it was really intense when there were only like 4 of us, but then when 4 more joined and it just got extremely boring.

Everytime you turned around there was buckshot in your back. The players with lower ping (like me) were the ones who claimed the top scores, but I have to confess that I don't think a massive shotgun orgy is the way to decide who should win a signed copy of the game.

I wish there was something that could be done about this...but if it comes down to a bunch of rounds where everyone uses shotgun, so be it.

[Langemarck]

Hmm, I agree that shotguns may be banned, but I think you should keep the rocketlauncher...

It's The rockketlauncher is one of the best weapons to use against snipers, or else you need a lot of skills and luck to take one out.

Isn't it better to set a limit on weapons? like 2 rocketlaunchers maximum on a team?

I guess otherwise you wil idd have a team created with only on type of gun, isn't it the shotgun or rocketlaunceher, then it will be a sniping rifle.

[Lone_Wolf]

Ban the shotgun!

[[5DV]LiZaRD]

surely u can handle the challenge?

i hate the rocket/shotty whores too but they're a fact of life. don't ban any weaps...just beat the suckers up...

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[BadScript]

"The Hunt" is not really playable as an FFA DM map, and banning a weapon is not something that I would like to do.

And that's what "Battle Reports" are for, at least someone lived to tell the story...

[b0n0]

Id pick the Stg-44 over the shotgun anytime, cant see why people think thats such a good weapon...

Um, just for the record...I can rack up over 100 kills in a little under 30 minutes with the shotgun on Stalingrad.

You sure as hell can't do that with the rocket launcher due to the long reloading and x amount of times you blow yourselves up when someone gets close to you and you are dumb enough to think you can blow him up without killing yourself.

Snipers ain't gonna be able to do this either unless they move around frequently and enemies stay in opened areas (which is usually never the case with most machine gunners and shotgun whores). Pistol really isn't gonna cut it here.

If you're really skilled with the M1 Garand you can rack up points quickly since you have the advantage of having a weapon that is effective in both close and open quarters, but usually you will get sniped if you focus too much on open combat, and machiner gunners and shotgun whores usually dominate against you unless you make very accurate shots with the Garand...and quickly.

As for the 4 machine guns...yea, they are pretty decent on Stalingrad though none have the quick killing power of the shotgun in close combat unless the player runs blindly into your bullets (or you sneak up on them), and rarely do you get a long distance kill with them unless the enemy is either weak, inaccurate, and not using any type of rifle nor rocket launcher.

Honestly, I just can't see anyone possessing the ability to achieve the same kills:time ratio with these other weapons (on Stalingrad), due to the close quarter situations that dominate the map. The shotgun is by far the most well suited instrument for Stalingrad.

Unfortunately, I don't think there is anything that can be done but join the fray. Many people including myself have looked through the console commands, and there just doesn't seem to be any setting to prevent the usage of particular weapons.


Ah well. Shotgun orgy it is...

See i think that there will be some one mastering the Bazooka,panzercrek

There will be allot with the THompson