Pray long and hard.... - Page 2

Dr.Ziodberg · 01-02-2002, 07:27 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Colt:
OMG, look at that pic, the axis have a guitar, quick! Get the ear muffs!

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If you read up on your history, you would know that the guitar playing wehrmacht soldiers, were the most feared soldiers in WW2. The high-pitched and sometimes low booming bass of their guitars could scare of or drive allied soldiers insane in minutes.

The horrors of war my friend, the horrors...

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Animis Opibusque Parati

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Colt · 01-02-2002, 07:34 AM

Eval guitar playing axis...

One question, Wolfshook, are you Dutch? Do you know what that poster sais, just in case you don't. In general it summons the dutch people to betray their country and join the waffenSS.

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"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

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Wolfshook · 01-02-2002, 07:46 AM

The poster is simply a WW2 era recruiting poster for the Dutch, to join the Waffen SS. It tells them to join in the fight against Bolshevism. Who they fought for really doesn't matter, as I respect all WW2 veterans, no matter what country they fought for....Americans, Dutch, Russians, Japanese, English, etc.

The poster basically says,"Join in the fight against Bolshevism (or against Bolshevists), join the Waffen SS"

They did this, and fought against what they perceived to be the greatest threat, at that time, to them...Communism. Looking back in history, can you say that those men who joined, and fought against the Russians, were not right?

If you think they were wrong, then you didn't live through the Cold War.

But, this is a game...and really, this thread was meant to be taken lightly, not seriously. Loosen up guys.

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34th SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division Landstorm Nederland

"Meine Ehre heißt Treue"

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Colt · 01-02-2002, 07:51 AM

/me loosens up

One thing why I was kinda pissed off about this, the dutch waffen SS was also active in my town, my grandpa told me about them and what shit they pulled, so I was kinda pissed off.

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"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

Dr.Ziodberg · 01-02-2002, 07:53 AM

Alot of Danes joined the Axis forces too, and alot joined the allies... When they made the choice they probably had their own ideas about what was going on, and none of them knew about the koncentration camps... The ppl who joined the waffen SS were joining to fight the communists... Not to kill jews or other ethnic minorities. The ones who fight the communist hardest in modern history is americans.

Everybody have their idelogical believes, they might be wrong, they might be right... you don't know all the facts, and you don't know if you were right or wrong, untill the last line has been written in the history book.

I agree with Woolfshook, I respect everybody who have fought in any war, at any time, for any side... they did it because they had beliefs...

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Animis Opibusque Parati

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Wolfshook · 01-02-2002, 08:12 AM

Colt, I sincerely apologize if any Dutch Waffen SS committed atrocities to your family, or in the area you live.

They were not all like that, but there were men on all sides who did horrible things in WW2. I do not support such people, only those who fought with bravery in WW2. And there were Dutch WAffen SS, who were regular soldiers, who didn't commit atrocities.

I hope you understand, I will respect you if you are still a little angry, however.

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34th SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division Landstorm Nederland

"Meine Ehre heißt Treue"

mi_trooper · 01-02-2002, 08:47 AM

Oh My God, 3/504th-Cpt.Knight (or whatever your name is),

I love your edit!

Seriously, I think those SS troops were the worst and most brainwashed of them all!
And I want to do to them what the men of Easy Company did in 'Band of Brothers'!
You know in episode 5 ‘Crossroads’, a whole company of SS troops is mowed down!
Talk about a ‘Turkey Shoot’ hey!

I would join any allied attack force to get those slimy bastards, good soldiers or not…NOW WHO’S WITH ME?!?!?!

***MI TROOPER***
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AlphaLeader · 01-02-2002, 09:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Colt:
OMG, look at that pic, the axis have a guitar, quick! Get the ear muffs!

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ahahhaha

HaVoc · 01-02-2002, 09:43 AM

Ok. So your saying that we have to pray for every single damn person that died, from any country or nation, during any era throughout history, just for the hell of it? Well shit, I gotta get caught up!

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"One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, 'Fixing the wire, Sir'. I asked, 'Isn't that a little unhealthy right about now?' He answered, 'Yes Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed'. I asked, 'Don't those planes strafing the road bother you?' And he answered, 'No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!' Now, there was a real man. A real soldier," -General George S. Patton-

Proud Member of the 101st Airborne!

"Battered Bastards of Bastogne"

mellowski · 01-03-2002, 01:28 AM

i been praying long and hard and nothing happens!!!!!!!
Is my praying not good?

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3/504th-Cpt.Knight · 01-03-2002, 02:20 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Wolfshook:
Yes, every Waffen SS soldier was brainwashed to fight for his country. That makes about as much sense as saying every American was brainwashed for doing the same thing.

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Wolf, here's the way I see it.

"Ok, lets join the Waffen SS to fight Communism, and while we're at it, we'll take over all of Europe, dispose of "unpure" ethinic groups and lie to our own people about what we are fighting for."

Maybe brainwashed is to vague of a word to use, but you have to admit that they were lied to about what that were fighting for. Given false hope and empty dreams all because of one man's paranoia. I mean do you really think they were doing the right thing?

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504th Parachute Infantry Regiment
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3/504th-Cpt.Knight · 01-03-2002, 05:42 AM

The Waffen SS was no joke. They were some fuct up, psycho bastards! Feared and highly respected. And yes brainwashed, but most of the ppl there at that time were brainwashed under the Nazis.

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3rd Battalion
504th Parachute Infantry Regiment
82nd Airborne Division
"The Blue Devils"

FrAgMaN · 01-03-2002, 06:20 AM

True

FrAgMaN · 01-03-2002, 06:23 AM

trUE

FrAgMaN · 01-03-2002, 06:24 AM

trUE

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