[Albow0001]

Is that some wierd way of telling us you got laid last night?

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Solidus is my Techie Bear! 'Nuff said.

Be afraid. We are coming.
I am 's sexual slave! Hoo-ray!

[Fuzzywig]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IHaveNOFriendsAndISuck:
Hey Hotspur. Im From Los Angeles, california, not a small town dumbass. I also go to the third best high school in the nation. Ive been to Germany, austria, hungry, the czech republich, france, england canada, italy, mexico, Great Brittain, spain, switzerland, and 43 of the 50 states. ive seen the world, and many of the places i've gone i've loved. Most of the rest of the world is great, But evrey day I thank God that i have the privelage of being an american. Hell yes im a flag waving Republican patriot. your a liberal slob anti-american. If you have a problem with me loving my country and countriemen than you can get the hell out and see if you like living any where else as much as america.

once again i cannot type worth crap<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

he goes to the "third best high school in the nation" and he cant spell

[Albow0001]

Hey Hotspur. Im from Los Angeles, California, not a small town, dumbass. I also go to the third best high school in the nation. I've been to Germany, Austria, Hungary, the Czech Republic, France, England, Canada, Italy, Mexico, Spain, Switzerland, and 43 of the 50 states. I've seen the world, and many of the places i have gone, i've loved. Most of the rest of the world is great, but every day, I thank God that I have the priviledge of being an American. Hell yes, i'm a flag waving Republican patriot. You're a liberal slob anti-american. If you have a problem with me loving my country and countrymen, then you can get the hell out and see if you like living any where else as much as America.
Once again, i cannot type worth crap.

I fixed it for ya man


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Solidus is my Techie Bear! 'Nuff said.

Be afraid. We are coming.
I am 's sexual slave! Hoo-ray!

[This message has been edited by Albow0001 (edited January 06, 2002).]

[Hotspur]

An excellent author on the two world wars is Paul Fussell. Keegan's best book is his first, The Face of Battle.

IHAVENOFRIENDS - You raised much ire because of the offensiveness of your remarks, particularly at a time such as this, when the Brits have once again proven themselves invaluable allies to the US.

Your attitude of American superiority is naive and shared by the nationalists of, for instance, Nazi Germany, or the Roman Empire, or the British Empire at its peak. Remember: any nation's role in history is ephemeral.

Ambrose is the so-called historian (now proven a plagarist) who wrote the book upon which Private Ryan was based; he all but ignores the role of the Brits, Canadians, Scots, and treats the invasion as if it were solely an American show. To say that the American's fed the Brits during the dark days of the war has truth, but a more accurate interpretation is that the Brits FOUGHT for us and we fed them.

[Albow0001]

Here's a story i think you should hear more:

In the early days of the war, before Pearl Harbour, the Americans had agree not to give any materials to other countries that Germany was fighting.
So, at a place within 50 feet of the American/Canadian border, planes, tanks, and munitions would be stored. Canadians would then cross the 50 feet of border, take the planes or tanks or munitions, and drag them across to the other side of the border, where they would then ship them out to where they were needed.

Just think that's a little story we should all hear.

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Solidus is my Techie Bear! 'Nuff said.

Be afraid. We are coming.
I am 's sexual slave! Hoo-ray!

[Ketil]

With the emphasis on the word "story"
Where did you find this lovely piece of nonsense?

[Albow0001]

Maybe in school, from actual newsreels taken back in the late 30's early 40's?

With the emphasis on "Piss off"

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Solidus is my Techie Bear! 'Nuff said.

Be afraid. We are coming.
I am 's sexual slave! Hoo-ray!

[8827Echo]

It ain't nonsense.

Taken from Second World War New Edition by Martin Gilbert, Page 67 (middle of the page):

Unable to breach American neutrality by shipping aircraft to Britain uncrated and ready to fly, Roosevelt himself proposed, on the night of May 15, a way round a surviving provision in the Neutrality Act. This was to fly the aircraft to the American side of the Canadian border, 'push' them across the border, then fly them on to Newfoundland, where they could by put on board a ship. 'We already know', Purvis reported to London, 'this method is legal and feasible.'

[Ketil]

The Neutrality Acts of the mid - 1930's had forbidden trade in armaments with any nation at war no matter the justice of its cause. The first breach in the wall of this isolationist legislation came immediately after the outbreak of war in September 1939 when a special session of the Congress approved "cash and carry" amendments which allowed the Allies to purchase war supplies-provided that they paid cash and used their own ships to carry them back to Europe. Following the fall of France in June 1940, American opinion shifted more decisively in favor of "all aid short of war" for embattled Britain. Rather than urge repeal of the Neutrality Acts, internationalists belonging to the Committee to Defend America by Aiding the Allies suggested another half - way measure. The idea was to "trade destroyers for bases." On his own authority in September 1940, President Roosevelt agreed to provide Great Britain with 50 overage US destroyers for convoy duty in the North Atlantic. In return, the US was granted 99 - year leases for American naval and air bases in British possessions-from Newfoundland to British Guiana-in the Western Hemisphere. Initially, the deal was of little military significance because it took time for the British to refit the ships and train crews to operate them. Politically, however, it helped neutralize isolationist opposition by allowing the Roosevelt Administration to argue that the US had made "a shrewd bargain" strengthening Western Hemisphere defenses. It also provided a precedent and opening for an even greater departure in 1941.

2. Lend - Lease

On December 17, 1940, Prime Minister Churchill informed the US that Britain would soon run out of financial resources to buy desperately needed war material under the "cash and carry" provisions. Twelve days later, President Roosevelt delivered a "fireside chat" explaining to the American people why he wanted "to eliminate the dollar sign" from the Anglo - American relationship. He used this famous illustration: "Suppose my neighbor's house catches fire and I have a length of garden hose four or five hundred feet away. If he can take my garden hose and connect it up with his hydrant, I may help him put out the fire....I don't say to him before that operation, 'Neighbor, my hose cost me fifteen dollars; you have to pay me fifteen dollars for it.' No, I don't want fifteen dollars-I want my garden hose back after the fire is over." To help the Allies "put out the fire" of Nazi aggression, Roosevelt introduced on January 10, 1941, the Lend - Lease Bill authorizing the President to lend or lease armaments with no repayment in cash or kind expected until after the war. On March 11th, Congress approved the program with an initial $7 billion appropriation-that Churchill called "the most unsordid act in the history of any nation."

3. Aid to Britain

It took six months for Lend - Lease to really come "on line, " and such aid accounted for only 10f the arms and munitions used by Britain during the whole of 1941 during which food and fuel shipments from the US were more important. From 1942 on, however, Lend - Lease supplies to Britain ultimately totaling over $20 billion-were critical to the United Kingdom's war effort.

We started selling to the Brits in 1939, I have found no records of an agreement not to sell materiels to countries fighting Germany.
Nice reply by the way, profanity is the last argument of the weak mind.

[8827Echo]

So there. Don't believe it still? Then go sue Martin Gilbert.

I havent found anything on selling things to Germany and countries that supported it, but the "story" is real...

[This message has been edited by 8827Echo (edited January 06, 2002).]

[Albow0001]

Okay, i'm gonna go easy on you because you posted RIGHT after Echo did, so i have an excuse.

The only thing i'm going to say is: Profanity is far more than an excuse, it is a lifestyle.
Kraut Killer, where the fuck are you? Teach this kid some manners...LOL

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Solidus is my Techie Bear! 'Nuff said.

Be afraid. We are coming.
I am 's sexual slave! Hoo-ray!

[8827Echo]

lol

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hotspur:
An excellent author on the two world wars is Paul Fussell. Keegan's best book is his first, The Face of Battle.

Ambrose is the so-called historian (now proven a plagarist) who wrote the book upon which Private Ryan was based; he all but ignores the role of the Brits, Canadians, Scots, and treats the invasion as if it were solely an American show. To say that the American's fed the Brits during the dark days of the war has truth, but a more accurate interpretation is that the Brits FOUGHT for us and we fed them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I like what this guy said about how they FOUGHT and the americans fed em, I like that a lot actually!

[Ludacris]

for all you new guys this conversation happened like 8 months ago, and it got just as stupid as its getting now, the exact same conversation was held, and it doesnt matter nayways now cause the games finished, so no bitching

Shut up you