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Default Do u consider binding keys cheating - 03-18-2003, 11:35 PM

such as lean and strafe
  
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Default 03-18-2003, 11:59 PM

Haven't done it.
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 12:18 AM

Not really, but its cheap and people will hate you for it.
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 05:57 AM

I think its lame, its exactly the same as running the `dance` script in my eyes.

Binding two functions to one key allows a player to perform movements which regular players cant, without these binds, it gives an unfair advantage and by definition is cheating cry:
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 05:59 AM

Since anyone can do it, no its not cheating. It just like going onto roofs your not supposed to; its cheap, and you look like a moron, but its not cheating.


  
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Default 03-19-2003, 07:07 AM

Personally I think its lame and looks silly. And nothing gives me more pleasure then puttin' a bullet into one of those wobbling fools.

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Default 03-19-2003, 07:30 AM

[quote="Gothic_child180":cbe1b]Since anyone can do it, no its not cheating. It just like going onto roofs your not supposed to; its cheap, and you look like a moron, but its not cheating.[/quote:cbe1b]

Anyone can download wallhacks. That's cheating alright. So I don't think that's a valid argument.

Binding more than 1 function to separate keys is not possible through the 'normal' control options. Only via the console. You don't need to download a tool to gain access to the console, that's why I don't consider it cheating.

I do consider it lame though. One should develop skills in playing, not in handling the console.

Question is: How far is one willing to go calling binds cheats? I have taunts bound to keys. So I don't need to press 3 keys for a taunt. Takes less time, thus giving me a (negligible?) advantage.

As far as getting on roofs goes: I don't consider it cheating. Getting there takes skill and time (and sometimes the effort of several players), making you vulnarable to attacks. I always find it funny noticing someone is on some roof. And, 'going onto roofs your not supposed to'; which roofs are out of bounds, which are allowed? It's a thin line...
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 08:21 AM

haha...all this whinin about lean/strafe. and yes, anyone can do it with a key remap or simply using the keymap as it . a cheat? omg...how in the world would this be a cheat? every single player with this game can do it either by assigning the keys, binding the keys or positioning yourself on the keyboard properly. i think you all really know what cheating is..but it seems that anything thats done in/with this game that you dont do you yourself..then its cheating?..pfft.
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 08:37 AM

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Binding more than 1 function to separate keys is not possible through the 'normal' control options.
Yep thats my point, its unfair because not everyone can do this, its like saying no-fog is not cheating and trying to justify it saying "well anyone can do it!"

Getting on a roof is not cheating either, so long as you can do it alone, using the buddy-jump is amusing to get higher or out of the map but this is regarded as cheating by most ladders including clanbase.

Gothic you should know better! *smacks legs* lol biggrin:
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 09:46 AM

Sweet honourable JEEZUS! Stop talking about this worn out topic!!

*curls up into fetal position*

ItNeverStops-ItNeverStops-LeanBindNotCheating-LeanBindIsCheating-1234-look at all the pretty n00bs..heehee

You might as well talk about shotguns, rockets, nade spamming, and butt-sliding while yer at it

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Default 03-19-2003, 10:02 AM

and beweive it or not theres already 2 other threads on the first page about this ...

http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/vie ... p?t=158202
http://www.alliedassault.com/phpBB2/vie ... p?t=158137
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 10:04 AM

No disrespect, Zoner (and I know your post wasn't entirely serious) but with a game that is still available to buy you will always get new players asking questions that seem old to you, so you should expect this to happen.

The search option isn't really viable, either... Not on this chuggy slow-arse site. Just try typing leanbind into search and you'll get tons and tons of responses, half of which are bloody useless (after a few hours of searching hehe). It's a lot easier to do this and just as easy to either ignore it or reply to it

On topic: Leanbinding is the same as anything in this game... One person doing it is ok, but a whole server doing it becomes old and very boring.

You know the scenario.. You join a nice quiet server where everyone is about your level of ability and everything's going great, and then someone joins and starts leanbinding with the SMG.

Before you know it everyone is using SMGs (this used to be shotguns) and everyone is bobbing left and right like complete idiots.

30 minutes of that and I'm typing quit into my console.

Using lean and strafe (whether bound or not) on corners and in positions of cover makes sense to me. Using it in the middle of an open area is just plain stupid and you can tell the mentality of the player by it.

They think that by moving their head like epileptic chickens that you'll have a hard time hitting them in critical areas.

Sadly, when a good player uses it, this can the case. It escapes me why these good players still use leanbind like this... Surely they have "grown out" of this newbie bind by now (and it really is for newbies... No self-respecting above average player will cut corners like that)?

This is the single reason why I am still tempted to get Spearhead, despite all the bad stuff I read about it here.

I can put up with a little butt-scooting if I can play a full game without seeing some nob jerking his head about whilst running at full tilt.

Why oh why EA couldn't have patched MOH:AA with this I don't know.
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 10:07 AM

And Judas yeh you're right it's been mentioned but the first topic asks how to do it, and the second asks specifically about lean and strafe whereas this asks about binding in general.

Slightly different (anally so) but still different all the same.

Yet again, it's easier to just reply or ignore, imo.
  
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Default 03-19-2003, 10:08 AM

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No disrespect, Zoner (and I know your post wasn't entirely serious) but with a game that is still available to buy you will always get new players asking questions that seem old to you, so you should expect this to happen.
Yeah, I know.

I just think that these repetitive topics are the equivalent of waltzing into the official Microsoft forum (if there IS one) and stating "Man, Windows 95 blows!"

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Default 03-19-2003, 10:12 AM

Here's another question: I don't lean+strafe bind, but I do however lean with my 4th and 5th mousebutton. Is this cheating?
  
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