German soldiers were not Nazis

Lone_Wolf · 01-09-2002, 11:01 PM

Freakaloin you dont learn much history in USA. The hole german nation was brainwashed even in the school books there were propaganda. But that doesnt mean that the soldiers were all nazis. It was like in USA a duty to their country. Some were forced to fight like in USA. USA isnt a saint either like when you helped Pinochot to take the power in Chile just beacuse the goverment were communists and we all know what Pinochet did right?

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Freakaloin · 01-09-2002, 11:08 PM

thats exactley why germans were morons. a whole country brainwashed...pathetic(not tru however). the fact that hitler invaded a single country makes him a walking atrocity. and yet germans still followed him. take out the jews and he was still crazy and the ppl followed...morons... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lone_Wolf:
Freakaloin you dont learn much history in USA. The hole german nation was brainwashed even in the school books there were propaganda.

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Dice · 01-09-2002, 11:16 PM

Anyone can be brainwashed
Sometimes people are scared into believing

Lone_Wolf · 01-09-2002, 11:38 PM

If you lived in German that in that time you would have been brainwashed too. Hitler and his many was were skilled on brainwashing and I mean VERY skilled

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Dice · 01-09-2002, 11:41 PM

Yes and the German people were very susceptible to this sort of thing. The mark was worth nothing, they were miserable. Tons of people were unemployed...it was the early 30s a global depression when Nazism came to power. They needed a way out. Its times like that that allow dictators to arise.

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Kraut Killer · 01-09-2002, 11:51 PM

If you want to blame anyone... blame the Frogs and the British. Because really, if it weren't for them shiting on the Krauts in the Treaty of Versailles(sp?), the whole Second World War MAY never have happened. And if it weren't for the Great Depression compounding things, Hitler wouldn't have had the power he gained, but seeing as the whole country was in fiscal ruin these people needed something to bring them back to the SuperPower they once were. Hitler gave them that something, being the opportunist that he was, he used this moment of vulnerability to take over. He brought Germany back to life, he was their saviour. He was their Roosevelt. Given the circumstances, almost anybody would fall into this trap. They weren't supporting his "Final Solution", they were just fighting to bring Germany back to its former greatness. Well, now that concludes this weeks history lesson, and I can go a week without saying anything that pertains to anything.

Soda · 01-09-2002, 11:58 PM

Well, I'd rather be in the Red army. Communists believe all men are equal, and should be treated equal, everybody same opportunities, same income,... That is a nice theory, but difficult to bring in practice. Fascists believe the direct opposite.

And fascism can flourish anywhere, the people are not (wholly) to blame. It were the conditions of the time. The fact that it happened elsewhere shows that it is not something that is solely "German" (Mussolini in Italy, Franco in Spain). It's like Dice says.

01-10-2002, 12:00 AM

see fereakazoid!!!!!! Also il say it again SOME PEOPLE TRYD TO KILL HITLER WHEN THE WAR WAS LOST.

mizat0 · 01-10-2002, 12:14 AM

I beg to differ. Although many German soldiers were said not to beleive in nazism, they still fought for, voluntarily or forced to, Hitler their supreme commander, and the advance of nazism throughout Europe.

Kraut Killer · 01-10-2002, 12:27 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Soda, my personal favorite soda is Wild Cherry Pepsi, but Soda may not like wild cherry pepsi, he may like a different kind of soda all together
Well, I'd rather be in the Red army. Communists believe all men are equal, and should be treated equal, everybody same opportunities, same income<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The Communist Army didn't work like that. There were still ranks, they would use their own people as cannon fodder, they would kill their own men for retreating, they'd use the people they conscripted from other countries to clear mine fields. The Red Army was a huge mess of undereducated, underequipped farmers. I would've wanted to be in a Western Allied Army, American or British, because they treated their soldiers the best.

Soda · 01-10-2002, 12:31 AM

I'm talking about what they were fighting for. And the choice was between the Hitler's troops and the Red army. Ofcourse I'd choose the Allies if that would be an option.

hossy904 · 01-10-2002, 12:56 AM

To believe that EVERYONE in Germany in the late 30's/40's were "brainwashed" by Hitler is not giving Germans credit. Most were scared of their way of life being changed or taken away. All were only given news censored (or created) by the Nazi's. I'm thinking they never really painted a rosey picture of the Allies. The world was much "bigger" back then, with no other choice than what was offered.

Frogy · 01-10-2002, 12:56 AM

German soldiers were in WWI. German men were forced by gun point to help the Nazis take over. (Yes, the Nazis were a political party) WWII was the Nazis forces vs. the allies.... Alot of the Nazis however, didnt know about the killings, and the cause, because they didn't want to be there in the first place.

RAZAK · 01-10-2002, 01:07 AM

i knew that and i hope a lot of other people know that too that the regular German soldier wasnt a nazi. The only nazis in there where the SS

FuBarGrn · 01-10-2002, 01:13 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by RAZAK:
i knew that and i hope a lot of other people know that too that the regular German soldier wasnt a nazi. The only nazis in there where the SS <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

shit there were 38+ division of SS...bud...and not ALL of them committed acts of Genocide....just SOME of them...and I can't say whether or not which ones KNEW about it.....

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