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04-19-2003, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferich
It's all about equipment, leadership and the heart of the Soldier and if he wants to die for his Country.... I don't understand the sterotype of French people at all, just because they underestimated the Nazis with that shit Wall, and then got run over by more modern equipment that the German's enforced...it's all logistics, not the French.
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1. The French tanks were better than german tanks.
2. The French had more tanks.
3. The French had more troops.
4. The French are French.
I also cant comprehend why some people feel they sound more intelligent and well read by saying "You sir, suck cock" or any of that garbage.
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04-19-2003, 08:26 PM
1. Wrong, A Renault's armor was horrible compared to that of a Panzer, and it had a smaller cannon.
2. True, but they were crap.
3. True, but they weren't dispersed correctly by Leadership, and they weren't prepared for a Blitzkrieg enforced by Germans, because they thought the Maginot line would hold. The Equipment they had was outdated and they had none what so ever Anti Armor rifles that could penetrate German " Blitzkrieg " Tanks, or hold them off.
4. The French are French, you're smart. You got me there.
And I'm not sure where you get from me saying " You sir, are a racist," shows that I have more intelligence. It was just off the top of my head, it's just a saying, not a point of my " balls are bigger than your balls." Lighten up abit.
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04-19-2003, 08:30 PM
in mid 1940 the germans had about 50 Pz. IV's. The rest were II's and III's. French tanks had better armor than german tanks but the guns were a little weaker although not much. The real thing was airpower and the luftwaffe totally outmatched the French in nearly ever category, although the French Dewoitne 240 was a match for the 109. Also germans had combat experience which the french lacked except maybe for colonial troops...
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04-19-2003, 08:31 PM
French got their asses kicked because they were still thinking in WWI terms of positional warfare, not mobile, like the germans. The French wasn't able to deal with the mobility of germans very well, since they thought that sitting back and letting them come to them was the way to win the war...which was the way in WWI, but not II.
Germans also used their tanks in formations to break through, while the French, if they used tanks at all, used them one by one.
And the maginot line only faces one way, so once they get past it using the spearhead of the tank, their home free.
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04-19-2003, 08:33 PM
Simply put it this way. Put any country one on one in World WAr 2 and the Germans will always win.
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04-19-2003, 08:33 PM
French tanks outnubered German vehicles and were sperior in all ways except speed.
And the French air force was basically non existent.
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04-19-2003, 08:35 PM
I might be wrong Blitz, but I think Pz IV's were produced in early 1936..I think they had more than 50. I don't know, you seem that you know more about German Tanks than me..so a Thanks in advance if I'm wrong.
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04-19-2003, 08:47 PM
[quote="Eight Ace":fea6c]...erm, no...I think you'll find it's the french.[/quote:fea6c]
not really, because a French squadron (Normandie Niemen) flying Russian Yakovlev fighters turned out to be one of the best squadrons of the war
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04-19-2003, 08:49 PM
wasnt claire chennault of direct french dissent?
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04-21-2003, 09:43 PM
French deserved to lose, they didnt' attack germany when the Poles needed assistance
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04-21-2003, 09:52 PM
Well, to be honest, Scrotum has been slightly anti-american ever since the war kicked off, with the news posts about America, the president, and all the things against it. That, I really don't care about, since it's news and it's not really racism, just a fair opinion.
Blitz is right though, and he said he was just kidding around anyways. So just forget it guys.
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04-21-2003, 09:52 PM
Maybe because the Germans attacked the French.
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