[Necrology]

[quote="aNti hEro":ecaa0]u people make me fucking sick. "i hate leaning cause it makes the person harder to shoot". what do u want, everyoen to stand still for u? this isnt target practice allied assault, its a fucking game. people do what they can do avoid death and get kills. there are borderlines (camping behind doors with a rocket, etc.) but leaning? grow up asshole. i suggest u go to one of the million realism servers out there where they cherish a good ww2 game. i dont mind it, but theres too many variations, and barely any stock servers out there. takes me a half hour to find a reasonable stock tdm server.[/quote:ecaa0]
I agree, I don't mind leaning at all, and do it a lot of the time

Originally Posted by Fallout

yes, i agree with Anti, if you can't hit them, just get better and do what they do, then you will be able to kill them. Not allowing leaning is like not allowing people to go behind walls while reloading, its just strategy and common sense, it keeps you alive and is perfectly reasonable

getting better = learning to lean back and forth???
this is news to me.

I just drop to one knee, point my rifle, and hole the leaning idiot, end of story. I kill people quite effectively without looking stupid.

[*MoG*HavilaH]

You cant jus suddenly start playing a game and expect to be the best at it. You just have to practice practice practice! Unless ur one of dem slow people --> oOo: ed:

[Ydiss]

Leaners have quite a deal less of an advantage in realism than in stock.

In stock hitting the head is king, in realism you can settle for (and I've seen this said a lot in threads like these) the lower areas.

It aint so easy to just kneel and pop em in stock, which is probably why you see more leanbinders in stock.

Originally Posted by Ydiss

Leaners have quite a deal less of an advantage in realism than in stock.

In stock hitting the head is king, in realism you can settle for (and I've seen this said a lot in threads like these) the lower areas.

It aint so easy to just kneel and pop em in stock, which is probably why you see more leanbinders in stock.

in stock I chuck one of my many nades at them biggrin:

[pest]

[quote="Sgt Stryker":c33a1]

in stock I chuck one of my many nades at them biggrin:[/quote:c33a1]

BANNED!!!!!!!

[Tiwaz]

I am pro-lean.

Servers that don't allow leaners? What's up with that? If you don't like it, disable it, don't complain. Same with rockets and/or shotguns. Don't want them on your server? Disable them. I don't even want to play on servers where the people who run the place don't allow, but don't disable stuff either. So kick me. Bye bye.

Nothing requires more skill than leaning, strafing, moving and shooting at the same time, and yet still be able to evade bullets and shoot straight. We're talking about exploiting all the options that are in the game people. Being able to use all these keys requires skill. Learn to use your keyboard and mouse. Too many buttons for you? Find your gameboy and go play tetris.

I hate binders.

Furthermore:

- Grenade spammers: BAN.
- Jump from high place, and survive? Kill yourself with a grenade. Otherwise: BAN.
- Snipe while walking: BAN.
- Shotgun: BAN.
- Rocket: BAN.
- Open door while reloading: BAN.
- Open door while holding grenade: BAN.
- Stick your gun through the wall: BAN.
- On the roof in Southern France: BAN.
- Forget to close the door and the main computer shuts it for you: BAN.
- Walking 20 kph over a 10 cm wide fence: BAN.
- Kill someone by shooting in the right-foot: BAN.
- Picking up shotgun shells and use 'em as rockets: BAN.
- Camping: BAN.
- Reloading while sniper is in zoom: BAN.
- Headphones? They didn't use them in WWII; BAN.
- Reload your clip when it's not empty and keeping the bullets, even if you throw the clip away: BAN.
- Killing someone while he is typing in the middle of a firefight: BAN.
- Crosshair? BAN.
- Bla: BAN.

Originally Posted by Darkside

this game is supposed to be, to an extent, a WW2 sim

A WWII sim? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DoD is a WWII sim, its actually good too

[Akuma]

Originally Posted by Tiwaz

- Bla: BAN.

Finally someone agrees with me!

[quote="Sgt Stryker":3fbe9]

Originally Posted by Fallout

yes, i agree with Anti, if you can't hit them, just get better and do what they do, then you will be able to kill them. Not allowing leaning is like not allowing people to go behind walls while reloading, its just strategy and common sense, it keeps you alive and is perfectly reasonable

getting better = learning to lean back and forth???
this is news to me.

I just drop to one knee, point my rifle, and hole the leaning idiot, end of story. I kill people quite effectively without looking stupid.[/quote:3fbe9]

and that probably happens once out of 50 times, 49 where he actually kills u. id love to play u just to see ur "drop to knee" technique fail

[quote="aNti hEro":063b7][quote="Sgt Stryker":063b7]

Originally Posted by Fallout

yes, i agree with Anti, if you can't hit them, just get better and do what they do, then you will be able to kill them. Not allowing leaning is like not allowing people to go behind walls while reloading, its just strategy and common sense, it keeps you alive and is perfectly reasonable

getting better = learning to lean back and forth???
this is news to me.

I just drop to one knee, point my rifle, and hole the leaning idiot, end of story. I kill people quite effectively without looking stupid.[/quote:063b7]

and that probably happens once out of 50 times, 49 where he actually kills u. id love to play u just to see ur "drop to knee" technique fail[/quote:063b7]

aiming works a lot better than leaning back and forth making a fool of yourself

[Old Reliable]

i just cant stand the fact that you can walk and lean like a retard but you cant go into prone

[Ydiss]

I've seen a great number of leaners who are skilled. But the moment I see they've wimped out by using a bind I imediately recall the days of Half Life players needing to create intricate aliases to get the game to jump, fire, fly, switch, fire, switch, fire all in one button press.

Sure, anyone can do it, but it's a cop-out no other way about it.

I don't mind leaners (I do it, but I've rarely bothered to lean mid-fight) but leanbinders just lose respect with me even if they beat me more often than not.

I'm sure they don't care, though.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":5be9f][quote="aNti hEro":5be9f][quote="Sgt Stryker":5be9f]

Originally Posted by Fallout

yes, i agree with Anti, if you can't hit them, just get better and do what they do, then you will be able to kill them. Not allowing leaning is like not allowing people to go behind walls while reloading, its just strategy and common sense, it keeps you alive and is perfectly reasonable

getting better = learning to lean back and forth???
this is news to me.

I just drop to one knee, point my rifle, and hole the leaning idiot, end of story. I kill people quite effectively without looking stupid.[/quote:5be9f]

and that probably happens once out of 50 times, 49 where he actually kills u. id love to play u just to see ur "drop to knee" technique fail[/quote:5be9f]

aiming works a lot better than leaning back and forth making a fool of yourself[/quote:5be9f]

for me, it doesnt ruin my aiming. sitting still like just makes u an easy target. ask any of the skilled mohaa players out there, leaning and "looking like a fool" is the best way to play.

[quote="aNti hEro":80f75][quote="Sgt Stryker":80f75][quote="aNti hEro":80f75][quote="Sgt Stryker":80f75]

Originally Posted by Fallout

yes, i agree with Anti, if you can't hit them, just get better and do what they do, then you will be able to kill them. Not allowing leaning is like not allowing people to go behind walls while reloading, its just strategy and common sense, it keeps you alive and is perfectly reasonable

getting better = learning to lean back and forth???
this is news to me.

I just drop to one knee, point my rifle, and hole the leaning idiot, end of story. I kill people quite effectively without looking stupid.[/quote:80f75]

and that probably happens once out of 50 times, 49 where he actually kills u. id love to play u just to see ur "drop to knee" technique fail[/quote:80f75]

aiming works a lot better than leaning back and forth making a fool of yourself[/quote:80f75]

for me, it doesnt ruin my aiming. sitting still like just makes u an easy target. ask any of the skilled mohaa players out there, leaning and "looking like a fool" is the best way to play.[/quote:80f75]

you can't kill me if you can't see me, attracting attention to yourself will only get you dead. (at least in close quarters) using strafe to stay behind your enemy is more useful, I've killed many a shotgun whore with my Thmpson using this tactic (in the instances when I had to suffer through playing stock).

In stock the rules of dogfighting apply, get behind the badguy, use the sun, jump out from above, etc. 95% of the time I get killed it's someone using these sneaky tactics, not attacking me head on.