[quote=Sclass12][quote="aNti hEro":0f4e8][quote=".PsychoMerc.":0f4e8]

Originally Posted by "[MOD

Gen.WikiWeaponn":0f4e8]Yeah ppl with names like "master" or something like that who have high scores are usually cheating.

You also wanna follow them in spec mode to see if they never miss a shot, shoot ppl before they come around corners, etc.

Not true all of the time, some people actually can shoot people before the come around corners, they just listen. But when someone is walking around a corner (holding shift), then they are definitely ch34ting.[/quote:0f4e8]

or they seen u coming before. i could give u the perfect example in stali.

how to spot a cheater: watch for him scoping at walls for no reason, get some cheats of your own and watch him, or check for unusual actions.[/quote:0f4e8]
Thanks for repeating what i said[/quote:0f4e8]

anytime. when im at school i dont have time to read over every post. specially since i see your sig and can pretty much guess the post will be garbage, such as the "thank you captain obvious" picture you've posted above.

[doomsday2002]

Originally Posted by gtboys34

mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, i have no freakin clue how to spot hackers, except for when they shoot through dark windows and start shooting at me b4 i get around the corner but other than that im clueless. Can u guys post some other ways to spot em?

Well I do agree that theres many cheats out there but I also think theres a growing paranoia that anyone with a good score is a cheat.
Whilst i agree that spectating some1 is best way of seeing any "dodgyness"
but this can be misread as well to the untrained eye, an example of this is iv'e played the game since just after its release and therefore I now know all the usual camping spots...for example if some1 was spectating me on southern France they would see me entering the barrel room, spining round and if any1 is there shooting them, now i know that is a prime camping spot for many a newer player but for some1 watching it might be a case of "how did he know that some1 was there" he must be cheating!
When realy its just expierience.
Anyways try to stick to well admined servers where the admins know the game and the maps well and dont let the bastards get u down
dooms.

[Ydiss]

Just because a player is "following" someone behind a wall with their crosshair does not necessarily mean they are hacking.

When I am playing sneaky and I hear footsteps I will often look in the direction of the sound as this can help you work out which way they are moving.

A lot of cheaters will try their best to hide that they have a hack. It is possible to do this if you just ignore players who you could not possible see (nor reach quickly).

A lot of very good players will be able to pre-empt where you will be on the map if you've just spawned, as well. Experience tells you where they are likely to go and how far they are likely to have gotten.

You can use that to pre-empt them emerging round a corner. Fast reflexes then may make it look like you knew they were coming.

I have spec'd many players recently who don't even bother to try to hide their cheat. You can easilly catch them by doing the "fake-peek" a few times.

I made that name up but it's when you know your suspected cheater is around a corner. You approach the corner (leaning helps) but don't expose yourself at all and pull away before too much of your head/body "peeks".

If they fire at you the instant you pull back and they do this quite often then they're likely cheating. This is much easier to do if you have the cheat loaded yourself (if only when you suspect someone and want to check them out) because you will be able to see them waiting and watching you.

As for the aimbot, to detect someone using that is very easy.

You simply cannot hide the "snap-to-target" effect that it has. Watch someone for long enough who is using this hack and it's obvious.

[{RRY}corsair]

hahahaha very funny but THE GOD DAM SLOW WALKING IS ON THE DEFAULT THING AS SHIFT U IDIOT!!!!!

[{RRY}corsair]

by the way that note is to sclass not anyof u other guys

[{RRY}corsair]

[quote=Sclass12]

Originally Posted by "{RRY}corsair":cdb2f

well not true.........u can hold shift to walk slow that isnt cheating!

[img]http://www.lamer.net/master.jpg[/img][/quote:cdb2f]

well the slow walking thing is set on the default as slow walking so it isnt cheating if you see some1 with there gun in the air it is just them walking slowly so that u cant hear there footstepps of obviosly they are not cheating is slow walking is set on the default

[quote="{RRY}corsair":aa0ce][quote=Sclass12]

Originally Posted by "{RRY}corsair":aa0ce

well not true.........u can hold shift to walk slow that isnt cheating!

[img]http://www.lamer.net/master.jpg[/img][/quote:aa0ce]

well the slow walking thing is set on the default as slow walking so it isnt cheating if you see some1 with there gun in the air it is just them walking slowly so that u cant hear there footstepps of obviosly they are not cheating is slow walking is set on the default[/quote:aa0ce]
omg...you really are stupid
[img]http://www.lamer.net/master.jpg[/img]

[~^No0bAnIzEr^~]

There are other cheats besides those, like one time this guy didnt have to reload his rocket so he camped in this room in s. france, the one accross from those 3 boxes, and if you walked up the stairs (inside) he would fire a rocket and ur dead, my brother went halfway up, went back (right b4 he fired the rocket) and the ran up all in about 1 1/2 seconds, and the dude fired again. obviously a cheat! cool:

[quote="~^No0bAnIzEr^~":73098]There are other cheats besides those, like one time this guy didnt have to reload his rocket so he camped in this room in s. france, the one accross from those 3 boxes, and if you walked up the stairs (inside) he would fire a rocket and ur dead, my brother went halfway up, went back (right b4 he fired the rocket) and the ran up all in about 1 1/2 seconds, and the dude fired again. obviously a cheat! cool:[/quote:73098]

could there have been two guys?

[Ydiss]

[quote="~^No0bAnIzEr^~":48ee6]There are other cheats besides those, like one time this guy didnt have to reload his rocket so he camped in this room in s. france, the one accross from those 3 boxes, and if you walked up the stairs (inside) he would fire a rocket and ur dead, my brother went halfway up, went back (right b4 he fired the rocket) and the ran up all in about 1 1/2 seconds, and the dude fired again. obviously a cheat! cool:[/quote:48ee6]

Obviously not a cheat, actually.

[Tiwaz]

Originally Posted by Ydiss

You can easilly catch them by doing the "fake-peek" a few times.

I made that name up but it's when you know your suspected cheater is around a corner. You approach the corner (leaning helps) but don't expose yourself at all and pull away before too much of your head/body "peeks".

Yeah, this is a good trick. What I also do sometimes is, if you spotted the cheater, and he is behind a wall/door, lean left-right (while standing still, just move your head to the left and right). If the opponent has wallhack/neon skins, he will think you are a fellow cheater (he can see you leaning and may think you can see him as well). It is not unlikely that he will make jokes, later on in the battle, e.g. 'didn't you see me?'. Sometimes they even 'lean back' as if it were some kind of greeting...

Also installing neon skins yourself and go spectator makes it very easy to spot a cheater.

About aimbot: I don't think I have encountered it yet, but I am not sure. What do you mean with snap-to-target effect Ydiss? Doas it automatically aim for the head if the aimbot detects an opponent or something? I have never used or seen an aimbot, so I don't have an idea how it functions. Only cheat I downloaded once is a neon-skin/wallhack/no-recoil one. After that I stopped bothering. I hate cheats.

heres a tip to keep in mind... most of the kids on cheat police dont know shit

[~^No0bAnIzEr^~]

There werent two guys, and there was OBVIOUSLY a cheat, because he fired 2 rockets in about 3/4 of a second!and i didnt even hear one rocket reloading hake:

[Tiwaz]

If this really happened the way you decribed, it is not a cheat, but a mod. Perhaps the server was running a rocket launcher mod of some kind.

There is no damage magnifier or increase rate of fire cheat available. Has to be done serverside.

[Ydiss]

Originally Posted by Tiwaz

About aimbot: I don't think I have encountered it yet, but I am not sure. What do you mean with snap-to-target effect Ydiss? Doas it automatically aim for the head if the aimbot detects an opponent or something? I have never used or seen an aimbot, so I don't have an idea how it functions.

When I say "snap-to-target" I mean when an enemy appears in the preset FOV (field of vision - there's a cvar that you can alter for the bot that changes the angle at which the bot will aim at... So far as I know it cannot aim behind you, but I've never tested it) the cheater's aim will snap to that enemy.

The cheater can choose auto-fire (bot shoots for you with burst fire presets and variables) or they can shoot manually.

But, the snap-to effect gives them away. If they emerge around a corner and are facing 45 degrees+ from you, or perhaps even looking up, or down, as soon as you appear in their FOV they will aim at you immediately.

There is no "swing" of the aim. Even a player with very good reflexes will swing their aim sometimes.

A person using this bot will never do this. It's very obvious on verticle maps (Stalingrad for example).

I recently saw a player who was on the ground in Stalingrad and was firing upwards and to his left. I approached from his right and as soon as I saw him his aim instantly switched to me. That's a 90 degree turn with a pitch angle change of about 145 degrees in a split second, instantly hitting me.

Obvious.

Granted, some of the cheaters who are serious about what they do and want to actually seem "cool" and not just a sad kid will attempt to hide these cheats.

Until a cvar enabling "swing" auto-aim is introduced then this will never be possible for aimbots. And, if this cvar is introduced then you may as well just learn to aim yourself because it will seriously fuck up your own aiming in tight situations, especially when you really need to switch your aim quickly.