Look what CliffyB wrote about MoH:AA in his recent .plan upd - Page 2

ApostleX3000 · 01-23-2002, 09:24 AM

If it's all about multi-player and fan-base(which I strongly disagree), then UT still blows HL out of the water.

Frogy · 01-23-2002, 09:26 AM

Why is everyone here playing MoHAA, and constantly talking trash about it. It's the best, if you dont think so, go play Half-Life or Whatever,.....

LithiumTL · 01-23-2002, 09:36 AM

I am not dissing MOH, I just dont think it's the best FPS out there.

-=Lithium=-

ApostleX3000 · 01-23-2002, 09:42 AM

I agree with Lithium...MOH is incredible for what it is. But it completely lacks the openess of other games like Operation Flashpoint and UT. Who knows maybe that will all change if they release a game editor that's fairly basic and straight foward.

Dodd · 01-23-2002, 09:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jesta:
If someone says NOLF I'm going to crack up<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hahahahha, then why in almost all reviews the game got, many editors claimed NOLF to be the best FPS since Half-Life? If you don't think it is, what game do you think is the best FPS since Half-Life?

[AoD]Jobi1 · 01-23-2002, 09:48 AM

MoH single player is far from the best. The MP in my opinion will be up there

stevedroid · 01-23-2002, 10:34 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>What does Half life have to do with MOH<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Half-Life was incredibly important to the entire FPS genre. Some seem to miss this.

Before Half-Life every FPS was just a shoot-em-up. None tried to integrate story, puzzles, or strategy. Ok, maybe the original System Shock, but it never got the popularity to make a change in the industry. The most important aspect is story. All previous FPS games conveyed story through text or pathetic cutscenes. When it came down to it they all ended up being the same "kill monsters, find the key, get to the exit" game. Now granted that Half-Life's story was not Pulitzer material, but it was the first to be fully integrated into the game. Half-Life was perhaps the first FPS to truely motivate the player. You weren't just killing stuff to get to the next level, you were staying live, trying to figure out what happened, learning piece by piece what was going on. Half-Life gave berth to an entire new dimension of interactive story telling in games.

Secondly, Half-Life was the first FPS to implement scripting in a major way. Previously all FPSs just had enemies. There was no interaction around you. Half-Life created an atmosphere by including non-enemy characters and then having them interact in the environment. The enemies didn't simply attack, they carrierd out other activities; they were not single-minded like previous games. This created a game world that felt alive, and this is what took most people by shock. We take scripting for granted these days, but Half-Life was the first in a new wave of 'alive' FPS games.

I can still go back today and play Half-Life and enjoy it. It definitely has lost some of its luster; however, I remember when it first came out, I had never played anything like it before. It hooked me in a way that few games ever have (in fact I can think of only two others that enthralled me the way HL did: Outcast and Homeworld); for this reason I definitely believe it deserves that #1 spot in PC Gamer's list.

Anyway the point is that HL raised the bar for all FPS games. Without it it's likely we wouldn't have games as great as MOHAA today.

ApostleX3000 · 01-23-2002, 10:50 AM

HL sucks...get over it. Quake was revolutionary when it came out, and you know what...it sucks now. Super Mario was revolutionary when it came out...now, no one would want to even make a clone.

I feel people are way to hung up on old games. I've been intensely playing video games since 1983...and I've yet to find a game that makes me so nostalgic I would want to go replay it.

Half Life was interesting for a week two...but that's about it. I'll give it credit for story telling in FPS games...but the best FPS games are the best not for their story telling properties or scripted events, but, imo, their openess to user manipulation. UT and Operation Flashpoint have yet to get old for me, because every time I play them it's a new experiance. Rest assured though, once their sequals are released, they will be permantly put to rest without any looking back.

Cpt. dick · 01-24-2002, 12:38 AM

well put stevedroid!!! and I couldnt agree with you more

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MediaMies · 01-24-2002, 12:52 AM

You guy's are all forgetting SiN. Yes, it was buggy when it was released but after a patch it was a top notch. The level design in SiN is just insane, no other game even comes near it by far (This includes Quake's, Unreal's, SoF and Half-Life). And you cant forget the awesome expansion pack that 2015 made to it. Yes, SiN has to be greatest shooter ever made, period.

Joey · 01-24-2002, 12:59 AM

I probobally dont know it but i think rogue spear is my fravourite fps, it had me hooked for ages. i used to LOVE playing online and at one time i had a phone bill of over £140!

01-24-2002, 01:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>hahahahha, then why in almost all reviews the game got, many editors claimed NOLF to be the best FPS since Half-Life?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have no idea why, but you want to know what I think?

Not only was NOLF's AI retarded and repetitive, the levels were boring and stupid. (opinion)

So NOLF let you ride a motorcycle. Big freakin deal.

I'm not saying the game sucked, just that it wasn't anything worthy of a Game of the Year award. Don't know why the hell it got that.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> If you don't think it is, what game do you think is the best FPS since Half-Life?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Deus Ex. It was full of suspense and had a much better story than NOLF. It was nowhere near as linear either.

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madrebel · 01-24-2002, 02:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ApostleX3000:
If it's all about multi-player and fan-base(which I strongly disagree), then UT still blows HL out of the water.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
UT cant come close to the number of people playing counter-strike.

Recycled Spooge · 01-24-2002, 02:52 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jesta:
Looks like someone isn't afraid to handle the truth...

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CliffyB is hot.

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Dodd · 01-24-2002, 03:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Recycled Spooge:
CliffyB is hot.

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He's muy caliente!!!

CliffyB is the one on the right.

btw, he's much like Tyler. They both have something for cats.