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Ghetto-P · 01-24-2002, 05:28 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by colonel_ hogan:
The best fps of all time would have to be the Tom Clancy Rainbow series. My personal favourite was Rouge Spear and still is. Animations and graphics are still terrific 3-4 years later, although its starting to show its age.
Ghost Recon tried to be better but I still have a soft spot for RS. Half-life has poor sound and cartoonish graphics. I never really liked it. MOH is great but is not the greatest, but has the potential to become a true classic like RS.
Quake was also one of my personal favourites and I especially liked its evil gothic like overtones and hidden secrets. Loved blowing up those mummies heh.
When q2 came out it turned me off the quake series for life! too lame for me.
anyway thers my thoughts

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DAMN! I forgot about that series. I have so many games I cannot keep track of them. LOL! I got Rainbow 6 the day it came out and I played it for a long time. Me and a few other Zone buddies started a clan and it was pretty fun. The NATO mod made the game really fun in multiplayer. Rogue Spear was also really fun. I downloaded the Ghost Recon demo but I wasn't really feeling that game. The full version is probably better so I will probably buy it eventually.

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Ghetto-P · 01-24-2002, 06:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by stevedroid:
Half-Life was incredibly important to the entire FPS genre. Some seem to miss this.

Before Half-Life every FPS was just a shoot-em-up. None tried to integrate story, puzzles, or strategy. Ok, maybe the original System Shock, but it never got the popularity to make a change in the industry. The most important aspect is story. All previous FPS games conveyed story through text or pathetic cutscenes. When it came down to it they all ended up being the same "kill monsters, find the key, get to the exit" game. Now granted that Half-Life's story was not Pulitzer material, but it was the first to be fully integrated into the game. Half-Life was perhaps the first FPS to truely motivate the player. You weren't just killing stuff to get to the next level, you were staying live, trying to figure out what happened, learning piece by piece what was going on. Half-Life gave berth to an entire new dimension of interactive story telling in games.

Secondly, Half-Life was the first FPS to implement scripting in a major way. Previously all FPSs just had enemies. There was no interaction around you. Half-Life created an atmosphere by including non-enemy characters and then having them interact in the environment. The enemies didn't simply attack, they carrierd out other activities; they were not single-minded like previous games. This created a game world that felt alive, and this is what took most people by shock. We take scripting for granted these days, but Half-Life was the first in a new wave of 'alive' FPS games.

I can still go back today and play Half-Life and enjoy it. It definitely has lost some of its luster; however, I remember when it first came out, I had never played anything like it before. It hooked me in a way that few games ever have (in fact I can think of only two others that enthralled me the way HL did: Outcast and Homeworld); for this reason I definitely believe it deserves that #1 spot in PC Gamer's list.

Anyway the point is that HL raised the bar for all FPS games. Without it it's likely we wouldn't have games as great as MOHAA today.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

True dat. Every once and a while I go play that scene on the roof top where there are enemies dropping down those ropes and shooting at you. That scene was tight. I didn't like the regular Half-Life multiplayer but the mods for it kept it alive and fun.

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colonel_ hogan · 01-24-2002, 07:21 AM

The best fps of all time would have to be the Tom Clancy Rainbow series. My personal favourite was Rouge Spear and still is. Animations and graphics are still terrific 3-4 years later, although its starting to show its age.
Ghost Recon tried to be better but I still have a soft spot for RS. Half-life has poor sound and cartoonish graphics. I never really liked it. MOH is great but is not the greatest, but has the potential to become a true classic like RS.
Quake was also one of my personal favourites and I especially liked its evil gothic like overtones and hidden secrets. Loved blowing up those mummies heh.
When q2 came out it turned me off the quake series for life! too lame for me.
anyway thers my thoughts

Mosquito · 01-24-2002, 07:25 AM

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DigitalSmoke · 01-24-2002, 07:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by madrebel:
[B] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ApostleX3000:
If it's all about multi-player and fan-base(which I strongly disagree), then UT still blows HL out of the water.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

HalfLife is as popular as it is cos its a very low end systemgame.
There are far more ppl running 400mhz CPU's then there are ppl with 1gig's
And why play a game that runs at 10FPS
when you can run halfLife (CS) at 30FPS or so.
Frame Rate is Life!

Also, HalfLife playes prity slick in Software rendering, i dare to say that 50% of the HalfLife players are playing in that mode.

This is why its so popular.
Not cos of its GFX
Not cos of its Sounds
Not cos of its Ai engine
Not cos of its (cheating) Online FanBase
Not cos of its And Hell not cos its weak Map ed app.

And plz dont spill any beans on UT, cos its a freakin masterpeace.

Same go's for Quake3, even though i was a UTer.

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DsturbD · 01-24-2002, 08:50 AM

As said by DigitalSmoke:
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>HalfLife is as popular as it is cos its a very low end systemgame.
There are far more ppl running 400mhz CPU's then there are ppl with 1gig's.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You hit the nail on the head, my friend.

ApostleX3000 · 01-24-2002, 09:13 AM

Jeez...I guess I just took for granted having a high-end system(even though it's listed as entry level in pc-gamer). I truely believe, however, that the discriminating gamer with the hardware would choose UT over HL anyday.

RichmanRush · 01-24-2002, 10:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ApostleX3000:
...and I've yet to find a game that makes me so nostalgic I would want to go replay it.

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I'm sorry, but just a few months ago, I went and played a doom2 port (gldoom2) and it f00king owned. I don't think I could ever get bored of that game. Simple, yes. Outdated, yes. Fun as f00k to play, YES!
Doom2 got me started on multiplayer gaming and it hasn't stopped yet.
If there's any game that is nostalgic for me right now, it's doom/doom2.

And yes, I'm a fps game junkie, I've played and own alot of em, they all are good and bad. To each's own, no sense arguing which is better. Might as well debate who has better hair

Teisco · 01-24-2002, 10:24 AM

Duke Nukem
Quake
Half Life
Wolfie
Ghost Recon
Medal of Honor

MOH is my current favorite but not the best. It still does not have the intensity and authentic feel of Ghost Recon.

I must say the Omaha part was the best thing I have ever seen in a FPS, ever.

After getting up on the beach and then to the fence and then to the bunker base and then finally in the bunker looking out at the large beach with soldiers running from the shore made me stop and watch for quite some time.

Just an opinion from an old gamer.