[true]

This is looking to have the same outcome as Tribes 2 (T2), due to the fact that the game has been released with almost identical "bugs". What will happen is that after a few months of people desperately trying to enjoy the game, competition will die with the best teams leaving the ladders.

To avoid this you must do the following:

1) Dedicated Servers: For god's sake allow dedicated servers to be hosted w/o having to run the game itself. In every server i go in, 80% of the people in there have pings above 200, and maybe out of 32 people, 1-2 have pings under 100. If it's not because the servers suck, it's because your netcode needs work, in which case; work on your netcode.

2) Rcon: Some form of admin tool is needed. It's needed not only for competition but to allow admins to keep their servers idiot-free, thus allowing the casual or hardcore gamers to enjoy public play (pubbing). If people can't enjoy pubbing you lose the vast majority of your gaming audience.

3) Cut/Paste IP's: If you're going to force us to use gamespy (this is bad, btw), then at least give us the option of bypassing it by allowing us to PASTE the IP's we copy into the 'connect via IP' window. Having to write it down every time we want direct IP connection is just plain wrong.

4) Alt + Tab: Uh, this is obvious. If i'm in game i can't alt tab to check IRC PM's, ICQ, MSNmsngr, AIM, hell i can't close other programs to make it run more smoothly.

5) Mute/Flood protection: Earlier today i was on a server and some ass is spamming the chat box w/ german taunts. You just can't put taunts in a game w/o a way for people to ignore them.

If i see/think of any more i'll edit the post.

These things badly need to be addressed, otherwise competitive play a la Tribes, CS, RTCW, Q3, etc, will remain a dream, and ladders will fall apart after a few short months, killing the game.


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-W- true
Team Wolfpack

[This message has been edited by true (edited January 24, 2002).]

[LithiumTL]

Man I totally agree with you, I think the netcode needs a lot of work. Good Post!!

-=Lithium=-

[Pugilist]

I agree too. In all other games that I play online (alot of them) I get under 100 ping 9 times out of 10. This game I am lucky to get under 200! Even when I Sometimes do, I still get terrible lag spikes which pretty much ruins the online game. Fix it!

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[Dino]

Well listen peeps.

I always got under 100 ping with the MP demo.

Be patient, it will come.

[Ghetto-P]

Good points yo. In all other games, my ping is always around 50 or 60. RTCW has very good netcode. I have had pings of like 20 playing that game and I am on ADSL. A lot of times in MOHAA, my ping will be 200+. EA/2015 should listen to you!

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"Nuts!"
General McAuliffe

[Ponomis]

1) I know of several servers that I ping at under 40 and most people on there have under 100 ping.

2) I agree with you here

3) Use ASE, it's like how gamespy used to be before it was assified.

4) I know I'll get flamed for this, but you really don't need to be checking messages in game.

5) I agree with you here again.

[divisionbell77]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ghetto-P:
Good points yo. In all other games, my ping is always around 50 or 60. RTCW has very good netcode. I have had pings of like 20 playing that game and I am on ADSL. A lot of times in MOHAA, my ping will be 200+. EA/2015 should listen to you!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Funny, I remember when RTCW first came out that people were bitchign abotu shitty netcode.

When I find dedicated servers(i only play those with pings under 200, usually 160 or below), I have NO PROBLEMS AT ALL with lag.

[FuBarGrn]

You bring to the table great points....however you NEED to post this in the correct forum hte Developer's forum is where you need this,the game's dev's are frequenters there....
I will mail Polaris or wookster or Skidz and get them to move this so that the DEv's can take a peep at this

[true]

What server's are those? I sort by # of players, generally, to see which servers are the most popular, then i pick the ones to which i ping the best. I mostly play team DM...Havn't found any good west coast servers yet.

Where can i get ASE?

When i'm pubbing i like to alt-tab to do various things...especially during map load time, etc. Also, i sometimes have to alt-tab to check a PM *ding* and see whether or not it's important, and to give the IP/server name to my teammates so they can join me.

If you know of good servers w/ good connections, post the names/IP's here so we can pub on them and make them popular =)


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Team Wolfpack

[madrebel]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by true:
What server's are those? I sort by # of players, generally, to see which servers are the most popular, then i pick the ones to which i ping the best. I mostly play team DM...Havn't found any good west coast servers yet.

Where can i get ASE?

When i'm pubbing i like to alt-tab to do various things...especially during map load time, etc. Also, i sometimes have to alt-tab to check a PM *ding* and see whether or not it's important, and to give the IP/server name to my teammates so they can join me.

If you know of good servers w/ good connections, post the names/IP's here so we can pub on them and make them popular =)


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>our server fag! 208.22.111.69

google.com the all seeing eye

[true]

Thought of another thing:

Give people less rockets, there's no reason for people to not be using them - they're easily the best weapon in the game - point and shoot, one shot kill. You need to balance your game. (CPR isn't the answer, we need a mod that's called "balanced gameplay" if you ask me, since the game is unbalanced right out of the box.)

edit: Reb, our server is always down it seems. =/

Ahh another thing: When the server is full or timed out, it takes me all the way back to the main options room. That way i get to click 4 more times to try and rejoin the server! FUN! (resolution: when server is full let it take you back to the 'connect to IP address' screen.

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Team Wolfpack


[This message has been edited by true (edited January 24, 2002).]

[quiet]

Don't forget some sort of voting menu system with an anti-TK system - such as in RTCW.

[Capt_CruncH]

anyone know what the game is selling for on e-bay now? Think I could get $19 for mine?

I got the anti-cheat patch, when I run a server I still get cheaters.
EA should go to hell and DIE for rushing a fine game.
I dont want to blame the folks at 2015 but maybe when they completely sell out to EA and restart a new team and company they will know better then to get involved with EA.

[madrebel]

true 5pm-8am pacific.

i cant run the server during peak company hours cause it slows down our shit heh

[poseyj]

this game has incredible potential, i hope it doesn't die. ive never been this hyped and passionate for a game b4.

ea can save this easily.

some of these bugs seem way easy to fix.

and especially the gameplay tweaks. like no ally snipers in omaha period.

and limiting of class weapons.