[Blitz-krieg]

Which rifle is simpler to use, cheap to build, easier to get, and have farther range? I think the M4A1 is teh most durable because of it's shorter barrel length, and the lightest one

[ninty]

AK's are the best rifles in the world. Lok at how many countries and "groups" use them, not only for their ease to purchase, but for their reliability, mass production, cheap, effective means of killing people. biggrin:

[Miscguy]

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This is the most rediculas question ever. Using those thin lines of qualifications the AK-47 wins all classes. Range for an m-16(a2) since you didnt specify, is 550m on a point target. M4 is 450m. AK-47(non -M series, IE 7.62x39) sighting range is 800m and has a killing range of up to 1500m. Its obviously the easiest to get, maintain, and operate since any asshat in the world either has one or will have one by the time there 5 in some countries, younger in others. M4 is not the most durrable, again the ak wins because of its loose tolerances that allow the weapon to opperate even when heavly neglected. Where as the 16, and 4 have tighter tolerances and after firing hundreds of rounds or being neglected for a period of time will fowl, and generally suck.

Darn weapon n00bs.

being a fan of real rifle caliber I have to say the AK-47/AKM.

the AK-74 is waaaayyyy to light (in hitting power), the 5.56mm rifles are also underpowered (didn't some guy in Black Hawk Down (the book, not movie) have to shoot a Somali like 3-5 times to drop him?)

[Dr. Deleto]

considering that the 5.56 nato round was designed to wound and not kill, and the 7.62 was meant to destroy the target, I'm going with AK47. Also, The 5.56 tumbles as it exits the barrel making it less accurate, where as the 7.62 is set on a flat spin. As I recall the AK fires just a bit faster than both of them as well (cant remember exactly). The AK is what, 40 years old? and it really hasnt changed much in that time. Yet it is still one of the best designed and most versatile weapons in the world. Damn Soviet engineers!

[ninty]

As deleto said, 5.56 nato rounds were meant to wound, so that the enemy has to get 2 other people to carry the wounded guy off the battlefield, therefore eliminating 3 people instead of one.

[Blitz-krieg]

Wait a minute, the bigger the mm size, the more damage it is?

[ninty]

Isn't that the way it works with most things?

If I throw a 5mm rock at you it might hurt a bit, but if I throw a 50cm rock at you, it might crush your leg.

7.62mm bullets will rip you apart no problem.

[Tystnad]

Not nedessarly (i think).
You should also look at the fact if the bullet is FMJ or JHP.

Originally Posted by ninty9

As deleto said, 5.56 nato rounds were meant to wound, so that the enemy has to get 2 other people to carry the wounded guy off the battlefield, therefore eliminating 3 people instead of one.

provided that:

1: your enemy CARE about their wounded (not the case in Somalia)
2: you are falling back or gaining slowly so enemy has time to evac wounded.

If you're advancing rapidly like the US in Iraq, then all those casualties need to be cared for by the US, slowing down US forces.

Originally Posted by Tystnad

Not nedessarly (i think).
You should also look at the fact if the bullet is FMJ or JHP.

Only FMJs are legal for use in war.
JHPs can be used in anti-terror ops though but are not even standard issue to infantry (Delta Force maybe)

[Chickengood4u]

okay im a total gun n00b...
2 questions

1. whats the difference between ak 47 and 74?
2. what is FMJ and JHP?

[MrLevinstein]

FMJ= Full metal jacket

JHP= Jackeled Hallow point

Hallow point rounds do a lot more damage on contact

AK-47 is the standard 7.62mm round while the AK-74 fires the 5.45mm round

[101stSpeirs]

if the FMJ does less damage, why is it only allowed for war?