[Zoner]

Why do you think there're apps like PunkBuster, Delator, and Pandora?

Fair play is the only way to play, in my opinion. I really don't see the fun in being able to see through walls or see like Predator in a WWII game.

I have a feeling that if you think that cheating is more widely accepted by the mainstream gaming community than fair play, you've been sadly misled.

[T57]

Hey snipe I thought the anti cheat stuff they use on the servers was suppose to find all the cheats.

[T57]

There's only 2 things I use that didn't come with the game and that is a blood mod and a dot scope.

[Sniped Ur Azz]

I have heard your discussion, Zoner, by tons of AntiCheaters......but it just doesn't work....sorry.

If a person is allowed to use a custom scope/skin/hud/anything, then I should be allowed to play with hacks....sorry.

And yes they were SUPPOSED to catch them, but dude, hackers get around it within minutes of the program's release.

-Sniped

P.S. If I cant play a game the way I want to and I spent MY MONEY on it, then there is something wrong here, the way I see it, anticheats are illegal in a sense. Not right to be able to restrict me on what I PAID for, considering the fact that they take all of these screenshots and that takes up space on my HDD and They are doing more harm to me than I am to them, at least I am not scanning their computer...thats some BULLS*IT.

[Tystnad]

Sniped. whats the resemblance between my Covered Kar skin and your hacks? oOo:
Nuthing, you tard!

[Sniped Ur Azz]

Originally Posted by Tystnad

Sniped. whats the resemblance between my Covered Kar skin and your hacks? oOo:
Nuthing, you tard!

Dont start a flame war please....that was not my intention...please dont take it to that level.

You wanted to know the resemblance? Fine, it is the fact that you can modify the game the way you want it so that you will have the most fun playing it...right? Well in doing so you make yourself feel comfortable therefore raising your skill/speed. Think about it. If you are playing on your computer at home and you have it set up how you like to play, with skins and City Nights and all that, then when you go to a friends house and play on their stock game, it is alot different and no fun, therefore you will not do as well. Think about the scopes too, if you got a stock scope, your aim sucks, if you have a custom dot scope, your aim will improve, why else would you have gotten it?

-Sniped

[Dr. Deleto]

I think Zoner said it best when he spoke of your server or where he is playing. Your claim of the legality of anti-cheats is not even close to right. Most servers you play on, are being payed for by the individuals who run it. Most also cost in excess of $100/month, which is a hefty sum to pay so other people can enjoy this game. The way I see it, you can have your game like you want it on your own server sure, but when you go into someone elses they have the right, nay the privilage of affecting any changes they see fit on the way your game is setup. Isnt this why Cookie started the hackers alliance server I keep hearing about anyways? So that Hackers had a place to play without being harassed by non cheaters.

I myself play clean, and do not condone cheating because it gives an unfair advantage. Your argument reminds me of a guy who got caught cheating on an exam at my college. He had written the answers to some key questions on his arm and was wearing a long sleeve shirt. When he needed an answer he would roll his sleeve up momentarily and get his knowledge. When he was caught he was actually brazen enough to say "Its my arm, you can't do anything to him for writing on it". Needless to say he was expelled.

[PAS312]

hi sniped

and the model with light would be server side BTW..... but yeah, Zoner i dont like playing this game anyhow, but im gonna have to disagree with you on the whole mainstream anticheater-ness. MPC has like tens of thousands of posts, all of which *cough* are regulated *cough* so most are instructional, and aa and other forums have how many? but IMO most people that dont cheat do so becuase they either dont know about them, or are afraid to be caught.

BTW nofog in ogl:

//gldrawelements
if(nofog) //bool for toggle
{
glDisable(GL_FOG);
}

personally one of my favorites.

[Sniped Ur Azz]

lol Hey Pas......Nicely said bro.

I agree.

Yo Deleto I hear what you are saying about the server costs, however thats does not give me a reason as to why they can control me when I cant? If someone f*cks with me I am gonna f*ck back. I dont do anything wrong unless I am treated with disrespect and I am not given fair play. I understand what you are saying about the server costs, I have my own server and I only pay $30 a month. I dont really care about the cost, what I care about is, there should....no there HAS to be a disclaimer on the server name saying that they will SCAN my f*cking computer and take whatever kind of screenshots they want. That way I do not go into a server ready to OWN and there is some faggot admin taking screenshots of my game and that takes up space on my computer. If you want to run these things, you better say so first, I did not see in the, Terms of Agreement, that when I install Medal Of Honor that I am subject to scans and file creation on my computer. It is like the democracy we have now in America.....you have your own rights, so long as you do not mess with anyone else's then we are kewl. My cheat skins do not conflict with your server/pc/etc. at anytime....however when a screenshot is take by the server scanner, my pc is messed with, thats going from your rights and crossing onto mine. DOnt mess with me and I wont mess with you. I have modded my game in a way that will help my kill/death ratio. Most everyone else has done the same, just maybe not using hacks but they use some sort of customization.

I have a valid point and I will not back down.

-Sniped

P.S. Pas catch me on AIM.

[Zoner]

I do agree with you there, man. I like Forced Screenshots as much as I like wallhacks...and that isn't very much.

Where I play (AAN), cheaters are caught with Delator and booted automatically. That's all. Forced screenies is just a bad idea.

[Dragonwraith]

[quote="Sniped Ur Azz":c30e1] I dont do anything wrong unless I am treated with disrespect and I am not given fair play. [/quote:c30e1]

"fair play"

Your hacks are taking that away from us. I do agree with you and Zoner about the screenies. We don't bother taking them... what's the point. If i force a SS on you and it catches you using a wallhack, why the HELL would you send it in to me? So we figure why bother wasting our time and force SS's on people. This is a long drawn out fight that's been going on since the 1st neon skins showed up and it will never find a winner. All the hacks/cheats for MOH will NEVER go away, i don't care what scanner, autokick or client/server anticheat people run, it's just a fact that we're gonna have to deal with.

[Littletoy]

Fair play, is the coolest biggrin:

[Drew]

[quote="Sniped Ur Azz":02554]It can be....make a new model and attatch the light to the end...boom u got DoD.

-Sniped[/quote:02554]

Can anyone remind me why we aren't banning MPC members?

[Littletoy]

[quote=Noctis]

Originally Posted by "Sniped Ur Azz":948be

It can be....make a new model and attatch the light to the end...boom u got DoD.

-Sniped

Can anyone remind me why we aren't banning MPC members?[/quote:948be]

No lol oOo:

[Sniped Ur Azz]

Originally Posted by Noctis

Can anyone remind me why we aren't banning MPC members?

Yes I can, because you cant ban us. I dont care how much you try, if you ban us we will be back, it is only a matter of time....plus whats ur grounds on banning us? None, we have done nothing against the rules. Live with it.



-Sniped

P.S. Hacks/Cheats do not take away fair play, they make fair play possible...you do scanners, we will do hacks, you mess up my computer, I will mess up yours. Whatever you do to me I will counter it. So dont F*ck with me.