Saving Private Ryan Question - Page 2

[AoD]Jobi1 · 01-27-2002, 04:59 AM

Are you sure? Then why didn't he kill the interpreter when he walked by him down the stairs? I always thought he let the interpreter live cuz he owed him from earlier. I always thought it was the same guy. guess i was wrong...

01-27-2002, 05:18 AM

its the same guy...the guy probably just got promoted or soemthin

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Von Paulus · 01-27-2002, 05:31 AM

It most definately is NOT the same guy...

Steamboat Willie: The guy who shoots Captain Miller on the bridge, and then, in turn is shot by Uphem...

Other dude: Kills Melish then just dissapears...

Willie has a more rounded face, the other is more hard edged...

Mustang · 01-27-2002, 06:11 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Von Paulus:
It most definately is NOT the same guy...

Steamboat Willie: The guy who shoots Captain Miller on the bridge, and then, in turn is shot by Uphem...

Other dude: Kills Melish then just dissapears...

Willie has a more rounded face, the other is more hard edged...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup Von Paulis is correct, i'd stake my life on it, watch the ending and you'll see Steamboat Willie plug Cpt Miller when he is crawling towards the detonator on the far side of the bridge.

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Pvt.Caparzo · 01-27-2002, 06:12 AM

i thought it was the same guy too, but it isn't..the uniform is a dead give away..
the kraut they let go was a wermacht..they guy that stabbed mellish was an SS..
on his way down the stairs the SS dude does not kill upham, because 1) he was crying and 2)upham takes his hand off his gun..
now the guy that shoots miller IS the guy they let go..but not the same guy that killed mellish..just check his uniform...you can see his uniform is different also when upham ends up shooting him in the end...
unless of course, he killed mellish in his SS uniform..then changed back into his wermacht uniform..
they're actually two different guys..its pretty confusing though..but hey, so was the whole damn war right?

KangSa · 01-27-2002, 06:43 AM

This question is answered by Steven himself. Yes it's the same guy. The uni can't really mean anything, don't forget even the Allied exchanged their unis several times for various reasons, weather mostly.

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KangSa · 01-27-2002, 06:46 AM

And come on, are you guys that...Dumb?! If you have SPR on VCD/DVD watch it now and hear what that SS German guy said before he got shot by Upham. Well what did he say with a grin (fake) on his face? "UPHAM" it is. How the heck does he know Upham's name? Answer: They met at the radar sandbag place where he was forced to dug a hole!

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KangSa · 01-27-2002, 06:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pvt.Caparzo:
i thought it was the same guy too, but it isn't..the uniform is a dead give away..
the kraut they let go was a wermacht..they guy that stabbed mellish was an SS..
on his way down the stairs the SS dude does not kill upham, because 1) he was crying and 2)upham takes his hand off his gun..
now the guy that shoots miller IS the guy they let go..but not the same guy that killed mellish..just check his uniform...you can see his uniform is different also when upham ends up shooting him in the end...
unless of course, he killed mellish in his SS uniform..then changed back into his wermacht uniform..
they're actually two different guys..its pretty confusing though..but hey, so was the whole damn war right?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Clever...But if you actually think about it it's not the case. Why did Upham at the end shot that specific German but let go the others? Because he saw how he stabbed Mllish and shot the other Americans without mercy, and he also regret of letting him loose when they had a chance to shoot him. Conclusion: So the message the movie's trying to tell us is 'take no prisoners, shoot or get shot at'

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Predjee · 01-27-2002, 07:05 AM

There the same guy.. why ?

1 : upham is the guy, who took care of it, that they dint shoot steamboot willie, its upham to thank that he still lives, and it was upham who saw him as a humanbeing (giving him water, sigarets etc) unlike the rest of the squad who just wanted to kill hem, now after steamboot stabs mellish, he doesnt kill upham because upham saved his life before when he was captured, and it was upham to thank that they let him go, NOW at the end the reason that upham STILL shoots willie, is because he was sick of himself and sees clearly he was WRONG about to let him go in the first place, and NOT saving melish, so as soon as willie say's to upham : upham you remember me (or something like that) he thinks to himself : it was wrong letting you go, it believed in you, i tought you was different then the others, that you dint believed in this war like i did, that you really hated hitler, that you would surrender, but instead of that, you used me. and then he shots him

sorry of my crappy english :-) but this is my reason why i think there the same guy

KangSa · 01-27-2002, 07:08 AM

Well said

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8827Echo · 01-27-2002, 07:16 AM

I've seen people argue that they are not the same person because at the radar station Steamboat Willie was not wearing a helmet...

KangSa · 01-27-2002, 07:19 AM

Hahahahaha

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arcane_shot · 01-27-2002, 07:32 AM

Steamboat Willy and the guy that stabbed Mellish ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE! they don't even look alike...they wear different uniforms and their faces look completely different. you can even tell when Steamboat Willy see's Upham, he says "Upham" like he's almost surprised to see him...if Willy had just seen Upham on the stairs, why would he be acting like that? but back to the face thing. Willy's face looks a lot more sharp and is kinda the face that all Americans learned to hate during World War II. you know, the kinda guy that looks like a rat. the guy that stabbed Mellish had a rounded face and was completely different from the American view of a German soldier. they werent trying to make him a bad guy like they were with Steamboat Willy. ok, that's kinda confusing...but still

Frost · 01-27-2002, 07:42 AM

Yea I was confused just like some of you are/were, its not the same guy. I have the DVD and looked at thier faces and its 2 totally different ppl. If you go back and watch the part where Steamboat shoots Miller you see Upham see it and thats what makes him shoot him at the end. I wish I had a DVD rom and Could cap the guys faces so you all can see, but I only have a set-top DVD, heh plus Im at work.

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Dice · 01-27-2002, 08:41 AM

Sorry to be like this but:

JUST LOOK AT THEIR FUCKING FACES!!

THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE!