[snapshot]

Over all I sort of like MOA even though it has some problems. It might be such as with The Deadly Dozen that the game designers were pushed because of a release date set by the company. That was the case with TDD. Now they have a patch, but it doesn't do all that much. I do agree $50.00 is a bit too much for a game that does have it's problems. Atleast MOA does not have a bunch of zombie crap like Wolfenstein. RTCW is a nice game and I still play it. No doubt RTCW has the best graphics.

[snapshot]

I sort of like MOH even though I agree the price was a bit too much. Atleast MOH stayed more with reality than that of RTCW which ended up being another Clive Barker's "Undying" with allot of zombies. The game designers of MOH like "Deadly Dozen" were pushed to finish the game because of a release date. If game designers are given more time to finish the product they are asked to do we would be all happy campers and would not complain so much about the price of the games. Most of these games are company hype anyway to get people all excited then they will pay huge prices.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Whats with all the whiny, spoiled litte-brats in this thread?
Boo-hoo Germans keep sniping me and I can't beat Omaha! This game sucks. Only 8-hours of the best Single player experience ever? What a F*(king rip-off! 2105 is lazy, only my opinon matters and noone-else's! They should have made the game like I wanted it!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

so, what is what he doing any different than the HUNDREDS of posts and threads on this board telling the exact same thing - except they gladly paid for it. Funny. Pot calling the kettle black. Folks can whine about in-game modifications, but others cant complain about the overall experience.

And tell me he doesn't make any valid points.

shalom

[[5DV]LiZaRD]

ah the warez version has everything except the idiotic price tag. 1.1 patch works great on it.

why pay for it when it cant average higher than 30fps outdoors with 32 ppl on omaha; ingame browser is junk compared to old fps games; servers lag u out with more than 10 ppl playing, etc, etc.; the product needs a lot of patching.

Not to say that the game isnt good; i love mohaa mp and sp; mostly cuz it was free but its a great game nonetheless; but why pay for it if the free version works fine?

to reward the ppl behind the game u say? do u think the game got released and no one got paid? so many games make it to retail and go down the toilet, but ppl still got paid for their part before that, unless they were all complete idiots. like u guys who bought the game...

most of u who bought it have lots of cash to throw away, or are too lazy to dl the freebie and/or too dumb to get it working online. there's no shame in that; just admit it.

Lizard - do you like posting on this MESSAGE BOARD?

Antaganizing those that have paid for this game (including the mods - lol), isn't the way to go.

[Shoegaze99]

Folks like [5DV]LiZaRD are puzzling not because they are unable to admit that what they do is stealing, or because they are unable to ascertain the difference between right and wrong ...

... No, they are puzzling because they take *pride* in their theft, treating it like a badge of honor or some signal that they are sophisticated. Strange, that.

That sort of attitude does not signal intelligence or sophistication; quite opposite. It screams "I am an emotionally endeveloped child!" Why they cannot see that, even at their tender young age, I will never understand.

[5DV]LiZaRD, if you want to steal games, fine. Whatever. But don't try to justify it, because there is no justification. Don't try to claim it is anything that it isn't. And dear God, if you don't want to look like a pre-pubescent twit whose only means of feeling "empowered" is the Internet, don't *brag* about it. There are far better things to brag about. Steal and keep your mouth shut.

[Blashy]

I find that FPS developers are lazy if you look at other types of game RTS/RPG they can go upwards of 100 hours of gameplay, only in SP, is 25+ hours so much to ask for?

Looks like I'm not the only one:
www.ve3d.com

01/30/2002
How many hours do you think a full retail priced single player first person shooter should take to win?
Over 25 Hours (3236) 44%
16-20 Hours (1821) 25%
21-25 Hours (1446) 20%
11-15 Hours (708) 10%
5-10 Hours (161) 2%
Total Votes: 7372


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[H3@d$h0t]

Nobody wants to hear someone whine about what they dont like. No one can make you like something, and it all comes down to your taste in games. Whats the point of even being on these forums if you dont enjoy the game and all you do is rant about how much you hate it and how dissapointed you are?

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[Shoegaze99]

Blashy, if you are unable to understand the fundamental differences between a FPS and an RPG, or the vast differences between designed a RTS and a FPS, well, you certainly won't understand why FPSs are historically shorter games. At their core, the games are different, and *designing* the games is a much different process.

That said, shooters *are, getting shorter these days, by and large.

At one time shooters did pack in a lot more gameplay time. The Internet has changed that. Multiplay has changed that. The advent (and success) of multiplay-only shooters has changed that. A game does not have to pack in as much SP gameplay because what publishers and developers really want is for games to have a long life via online play and the contributions of the mod community. And, right or wrong, the idea has panned out fairly well for many games.

[Sh3ll_Sh0ck]

Blashy why don't you try and develop an FPS game, spending all-nighters and time away from your family for weeks on end, and putting all your effort into the game, only to have someone call you "lazy".

Do that and you MIGHT have the right to call 2015 lazy.

[This message has been edited by Sh3ll_Sh0ck (edited February 03, 2002).]

[This message has been edited by Sh3ll_Sh0ck (edited February 03, 2002).]

[H3@d$h0t]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shoegaze99:
Blashy, if you are unable to understand the fundamental differences between a FPS and an RPG, or the vast differences between designed a RTS and a FPS, well, you certainly won't understand why FPSs are historically shorter games. At their core, the games are different, and *designing* the games is a much different process.

That said, shooters *are, getting shorter these days, by and large.

At one time shooters did pack in a lot more gameplay time. The Internet has changed that. Multiplay has changed that. The advent (and success) of multiplay-only shooters has changed that. A game does not have to pack in as much SP gameplay because what publishers and developers really want is for games to have a long life via online play and the contributions of the mod community. And, right or wrong, the idea has panned out fairly well for many games.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
well said. i concur



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[josh88]

I'm finding it amusing some of the critique's of this game. There are some people who complain of only 6-8 hours of gameplay. They are totally ignoring all the craft work that went into the various textures, sound and AI. Have any of them looked inside the PAK files at all the elements that 2015 created. They went out of their way to make sure repetitious textures never surfaced. Again, I like to see the complainers try to create something themselves. Most of them are probably in the food-service or house-keeping industries anyway....(that last remark came from Ghosbusters):>

[BadScript]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by quiet:
I wish the moderators banned people who talk about using warez.

It's funny that people who post about using warez are flamed, but really the forum mods need to take charge.

Crime will always exist.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't find the part where he says "I have the game or I played the game but I didn't pay for it".

He did say "play it from a friend who has a copy", but I find that okay.

Other than that, he has every rights to critize a game.

[Blashy]

Don't get me wrong, those 6-8 hours I found excellent.

Even if it was the best FPS I had ever played (HALO is the king, next HL) I would still critic the game negatively because of it's length. BTW, HALO is about 10 hours as well, but I "might" buy it for PC because of the incredible MP possibilities, alhtough I might be engrossed in C&C:Renegade before that, heh .

As I said, if you can play it from a friend who has a copy, unless you enjoy the MP, although I find DoD to be a much better WW2 experience (if that's your type of game)

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[lysis]

Multi player is my favorite - I think the AI of the players in Multi is incredible!- They try different strategies all the time and aren't always in the same place!

lol