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				03-23-2004, 10:18 AM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		its a mess...  if they went to real war Isreal would win, but the fallout and retaliation from Islamic groups that support palistine would be insane... I think Noctis is right... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 10:45 AM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Israel is as much at fault in this war than The Palestine people. 
 
Stupid, stupid thing Israel has done. They just love to be hated I guess. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 10:46 AM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Eh, fuck him, if your part of Hamas, you need a cap in your ass. 
 
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				03-23-2004, 11:31 AM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		
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				not if we stop supporting israel...you know israel recieves more foriegn aid from the us than any other country. Its fucking ridiculous that we're running a huge defecit but we still send foreign aid, let alone the majority of it goes to fund israel. 
 
 
the jews in this country have far to much influence. even though they are the smallest ethnic/minority group in the nation, they are the most represented minority group in congress, they yeild an influence that is disproportionate to their numbers. 
			
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 I actually  agree with u. i wish the US would stop supporting Israel as much. If they stopped, i would feel that the hate for USA would be less becuase as being an arab myself and i am with other arabs all the time, that is the main reason i do not like the us.
 
This attack has already triggered revenge attacks including Palestian rocket attacks from Gaza and a Hezbollah attack on the Lebanese-Israeli border.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 06:22 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Yeah thats fine, just let Israel go. What happens after they are destroyed, we lose our closest/only ally in the middle east? you think violence will just stop because israel is gone? After Israelis are murdered, what will change in terms of stability in the area? They will still be plagued, poor, angry, and bitter over their lives. If Israel is gone, muslim leaders will just point the blame at the US and the west for the cause of their troubles. This shit wont end until the two can live together. A starting point would be to remove Sharon and Arafat from power and get some new leadership intent on actually making peace. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 06:56 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		To add on "Madmartagen" comment we also have to remember that Israel is a democratic nation. Plus, we also helped establish Israel after WWII and we can't just back off and not support them anymore. However I do feel majority of the hate from terroists comes from our support for Israel. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 06:58 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="[2ss]Panzer":457e5]This attack has already triggered revenge attacks including Palestian rocket attacks from Gaza and a Hezbollah attack on the Lebanese-Israeli border.[/quote:457e5] 
You seriously believe those attacks wouldn't have been carried out anyway? 
Hamas and Hezbolah have always tried their hardest to commit acts of terror 
on Israel....now we're supposed to believe the "gates of hell" have only just opened..?.... rolleyes: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 07:53 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		
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				Stupid, stupid thing Israel has done. They just love to be hated I guess. 
			
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 If they trry to make peace they're hated. If they kill some bad guys they're hated. They're going to be hated anyways, so what does it matter? oOo:  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		pwnd 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 08:48 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Yeah we should just back off and stop helping a country, so they can be consumed in by a nation that has no hopes but to blow up women, children, and the elderly. If helping Isreal raised my taxes 1 doller every week to know that young Jewish people were allowed to live after almost being exterminated 2ce, Id be fine for that. 
 
Ive long seen barbaric Nations slaughter Isreali's, and to tell you the truth I wouldnt mind nuking all over the Middle East. I mean we only like them for their oil they havent contributed anything to society since before the European Renissance 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				03-23-2004, 08:55 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="[2ss]Panzer":fb2d4]I actually agree with u. i wish the US would stop supporting Israel as much. If they stopped, i would feel that the hate for USA would be less becuase as being an arab myself and i am with other arabs all the time, that is the main reason i do not like the us. 
 
This attack has already triggered revenge attacks including Palestian rocket attacks from Gaza and a Hezbollah attack on the Lebanese-Israeli border.[/quote:fb2d4] 
 
Imagine that an towel head that hates the U.S. THe exact reason we should deport all of you little fucks back to youre pethetic little villages in your crumbling societys. Its funny how you think Isreal is at fault. What would happen if Isreal stopped bothering with palestine? Would the remains of dead children be strewn about the skelotons of a bus? Yes, because you are soo full of hate you cannot see that sometimes its better to let go. What would happen if Palestine stopped bothering with Isreal, with all your "freedom fighters" killing women?. Isreal would stop... Do you know why? Because after 3000 years of being thrown around continents like ragdolls they want to stop and have a peaceful time. But thanks to you little unibrowed assholes they cant. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Stupid, stupid thing Israel has done. They just love to be hated I guess. 
			
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 If they trry to make peace they're hated. If they kill some bad guys they're hated. They're going to be hated anyways, so what does it matter? oOo:  
			
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 not my fault they killed christ.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				Stupid, stupid thing Israel has done. They just love to be hated I guess. 
			
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 If they trry to make peace they're hated. If they kill some bad guys they're hated. They're going to be hated anyways, so what does it matter? oOo:  
			
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 not my fault they killed christ.  
			
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 Youre fucking kidding me, right Pyro????  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Stupid, stupid thing Israel has done. They just love to be hated I guess. 
			
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 If they trry to make peace they're hated. If they kill some bad guys they're hated. They're going to be hated anyways, so what does it matter? oOo:  
			
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 not my fault they killed christ.  
			
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 Youre fucking kidding me, right Pyro????  
			
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 Well they did kill christ (if all the jesus christ stories are true that is), do I hold it against them no. Just giving a reason to why some people might hate them.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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