[Short Hand]

[quote="Sgt Stryker":b70cd]as I see it Islam is right now where Christianity was during the inquisition (ie a bunch of religious fanatics attacking anything that is different); they may yet grow out of it. The challenge is to keep the extremists down and keep them from gaining the support of the main stream muslims.[/quote:b70cd]

TO LATE. tHEY HAVE ALREADY INFILTRATED EVERY SINGLE HIGH CLERIC POSITION AND MOST OF THE GOVERNMENT POSITIONS THERE ARE.

[101stSpeirs]

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

Im with Noc.

[ninty]

I stopped reading after:

"Why should we tolerate a religion that demands its people to kill the innocent."

[[2ss]Panzer]

Noctis, alot of ur "facts" about of Islam is wrong. I suggest that u actually look further for these things instead of getting "facts" off of the internet or a non-practicing muslim.

[Infection_Smith@]

I also have to agree. Noctis your statement was too bias that it quickly became out of touch with the rest of us.

[SoLiDUS]

Noctis is right on target: the problem is with people being exposed to the "exceptions" more often than they are to the rule ...

[Johnj]

Here are some passages from the Qur’an

Ishaq:369 “Thereupon Mas’ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’ And he accepted Islam.”

Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”

Ishaq: 676 “‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”


To learn more check out [url=http://www.prophetofdoom.net/:15388]this site[/url:15388].

[Drew]

[quote="[2ss]Panzer":58fa2]Noctis, alot of ur "facts" about of Islam is wrong. I suggest that u actually look further for these things instead of getting "facts" off of the internet or a non-practicing muslim.[/quote:58fa2]

As I've repeated several times before, I've actually read the Quran and probably know more about the intricacies than the so-called "practicing" Muslims. I'm sure there are atheist scholars of Christianity who know more about it than I do.

My statements are well-informed and based on facts, period.

[bukdez]

1st off -- this is NOT a war on Islam; its a war on a fanatical group of Muslums...

2nd -- I've read the Quran, the entire Bible, the Dhammapada, and the Bhagavad-Gita... but that doesn't mean I know what it is like to be part of any of those faiths... only what they say, and how I interpret it as a white, westerner.

Iv'e known, and still do, many Muslim people, men and women... I have yet to meet any that support Bin Ladin, Saddam, Al-Queda, Baath, or any of the fanatical muslim groups, they also don't support Hammas, the Taliban, or any form of suicide attacks or terrorist actions... these people dont hate the US or the Western world, they see it as a place that offers them a chance at educational and economic growth, and are more than happy to be here...

i don't agree with terrorism or the acts of millitant fanatical islamic groups... but people cant blame every muslim for this situation...

saying all muslims are at fault or lumping thier thoughts into one mind-set, is as bad as the fanatics actions of deeming all westerners as infidels and anti-muslims...

[Eight Ace]

Originally Posted by Johnj

from the Qur’an:

"The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much
fat in you belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered
me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said,
‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’ And he accepted Islam.”

No change there then... rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Noctis

Quze

Being as you have never had any sort of informed post in a similar thread, please feel free to leave yourself out of this one.

Why? Just like you have the right to post your opinion, as do I.

Just because someone never posted something in one of your other anti-Islam threads, doesn't mean they can't post in the newest one.

I hate terrorists as much as the next guy, regardless if their religion. The Islamic ones are just more covered by the media. With the invasion of Iraq, and Afghanistan.

[Old Reliable]

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

I've said it before and I'll say it again: we either take care of them now or
let the brutes use our technology on us. It won't be pretty, but something
needs to be done. Religion has been a thorn in humanity's side for far too
long: misunderstanding and intolerance will be our downfall.

Edit:

Notice that while technology improves, wisdom remains the same. In other
words, we're children playing with increasingly sophisticated and dangerous
toys: it's only a matter of time, I'm afraid...

if this is true, then why is bush trying to americanize iraq?

[[2ss]Panzer]

Originally Posted by bukdez

1st off -- this is NOT a war on Islam; its a war on a fanatical group of Muslums...

2nd -- I've read the Quran, the entire Bible, the Dhammapada, and the Bhagavad-Gita... but that doesn't mean I know what it is like to be part of any of those faiths... only what they say, and how I interpret it as a white, westerner.

Iv'e known, and still do, many Muslim people, men and women... I have yet to meet any that support Bin Ladin, Saddam, Al-Queda, Baath, or any of the fanatical muslim groups, they also don't support Hammas, the Taliban, or any form of suicide attacks or terrorist actions... these people dont hate the US or the Western world, they see it as a place that offers them a chance at educational and economic growth, and are more than happy to be here...

i don't agree with terrorism or the acts of millitant fanatical islamic groups... but people cant blame every muslim for this situation...

saying all muslims are at fault or lumping thier thoughts into one mind-set, is as bad as the fanatics actions of deeming all westerners as infidels and anti-muslims...

well said...I do not support any of these groups except the Hezbollah for they are not known as a terrorist group. Hezbollah has even called for other muslims to not follow these groups for the way they are. Hezbollah denounced the beheading 1 hour after it was released calling it "haram wa mosh islam." which practically means islam forbids it.

John J. I have seen that website many times and i laugh everytime someone tries to use it for facts. That site couldnt be bias oOo:

[Eames]

[quote="[2ss]Panzer":69b66]

Originally Posted by bukdez

1st off -- this is NOT a war on Islam; its a war on a fanatical group of Muslums...

2nd -- I've read the Quran, the entire Bible, the Dhammapada, and the Bhagavad-Gita... but that doesn't mean I know what it is like to be part of any of those faiths... only what they say, and how I interpret it as a white, westerner.

Iv'e known, and still do, many Muslim people, men and women... I have yet to meet any that support Bin Ladin, Saddam, Al-Queda, Baath, or any of the fanatical muslim groups, they also don't support Hammas, the Taliban, or any form of suicide attacks or terrorist actions... these people dont hate the US or the Western world, they see it as a place that offers them a chance at educational and economic growth, and are more than happy to be here...

i don't agree with terrorism or the acts of millitant fanatical islamic groups... but people cant blame every muslim for this situation...

saying all muslims are at fault or lumping thier thoughts into one mind-set, is as bad as the fanatics actions of deeming all westerners as infidels and anti-muslims...

well said...I do not support any of these groups except the Hezbollah for they are not known as a terrorist group. Hezbollah has even called for other muslims to not follow these groups for the way they are. Hezbollah denounced the beheading 1 hour after it was released calling it "haram wa mosh islam." which practically means islam forbids it.

John J. I have seen that website many times and i laugh everytime someone tries to use it for facts. That site couldnt be bias oOo:[/quote:69b66]

whats bias about it??? its what your fucking quran says, i cant believe anyone can actually follow islam its one of the biggest scam religions ever devised, if anyone wants to learn about the true aspects of islam i suggest you read robert moreys "the islamic invasion"

[Merlin122]

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