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05-15-2004, 10:36 AM
annoy: There is a conspiracy theory for everything, i even seen one saying that a plane never crashed into the Pentagon, that we blew it up ourselves. If the government officially stated the sky is blue, there would be a conspiracy theory against that.
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05-15-2004, 10:43 AM
Let the conspiracy theories begin.
The only one whos saying Berg was SOLELY being held by The US is Payne. Folks need to remember that US forces are providing support to dozens of Iraqi facilities, so it wouldnt be totally out of the ordinary for Berg to see US soldier and think hes being held in some US detention center. Berg himself tells his family that he was arrested by Iraqi police because of the equipment he was carrying, and then says he was "turned over" to the US.
As far as the videotape - so what. It is likely that Berg was killed before the beheading but what exactly does that prove? "Omg only AMERICANS would kill Berg before a beheading - we know those filthy sand n*****s would have done it live and in Memorex!" Please. White hands? I've even seen it described as LILY WHITE hands. Sorry but I dont see any lily-white caucassian hands, and Muslims are a MULTI-NATIONAL people so its not too shocking to think one of these folks are going to be fair skinned, light-brown.
There are always going to be nuts out there, and the author of that website is a well known nut. Folks are going to do ANYTHING to bring out theories of the grand Illuminati that secretly controls the world, of which Bush sits. This is sad and pathetic because it gives the Berg's some hope that they can have a finger to point at a tangible enemy - which they do not right now. Just sad.
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05-15-2004, 10:48 AM
kill those fuckers
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Major General
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05-15-2004, 01:48 PM
[quote="Xorcist [USA]":45c40]"Possible video inconsistencies
The video contains some apparent inconsistencies which suggest that it may have been been edited extensively by parties unknown. Technical problems in the film may conceal significant facts. The sound is out of sequence with the image, indicating that it may have been recorded separately. The time-stamp display indicates that several edits have been made. A significant discontinuity (over 11 hours) in the video's time-stamp from 2:44:12 to 13:45:47 occurs just after the killing begins. While the video is of poor quality, the sequences showing the beheading after the time jump appear to show very little arterial bleeding associated with the removal of the head, indicating that this act may very likely have been performed post-mortem.
An article on the english edition of the Al Jazeera website outlines further inconsistencies with the video, its distribution/dissemination and the circumstances surrounding Berg's death. Among these are
the motionlessness of the body as Berg is being beheaded
the access to the video available to mainstream news outlets such as Fox News, CNN, and the BBC within an hour after the story broke while Al Jazeera for instance, was unable to download the video only 30 min afterwards
why a private Jewish American citizen would choose to wander around Iraq by himself
why Berg was really arrested and detained by Iraqi police, with the full knowledge of the FBI
the disputed origin of the killer's accent
the mystery as to why al-Zarqawi would disguise his identity after verbally taking credit for the killing when his face is already well known"
Brings up some interesting questions.
[url:45c40]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Berg[/url:45c40][/quote:45c40]
The point is that he was beheaded because his body was found by an american patrol.
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05-15-2004, 02:25 PM
i really dont know what to think...
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General of the Army
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05-15-2004, 02:28 PM
Guess what who the fuck cares whether its a conspiracy and if he was dead already or not...YOU CHOPPED A FUCKING GUYS HEAD OFF AND YOU RECORDED IT...you are a sick fuck...bar none
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05-15-2004, 02:30 PM
thats what i was saying to buttocks in a pm. whether it was done by the USA, a terrorist, jack black, or penis face, there better be a thorough investigation by someone, because no one should die like that.
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05-15-2004, 02:39 PM
it seems that one of the terrorists is wearing running shoes...dont they usually wear combat boots?
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05-15-2004, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyMontana
it seems that one of the terrorists is wearing running shoes...dont they usually wear combat boots?
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why would combat boots be a must for a terrorist? They are average norma people that blend in...that's why they're the fucking cowardly terrorists that they are.
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05-15-2004, 02:58 PM
They cut his spinal cord, might this be the reason he doesnt, or can't move when they saw his head off. annoy:
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05-15-2004, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by intrestedviewer
They cut his spinal cord, might this be the reason he doesnt, or can't move when they saw his head off. annoy:
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he was actually moving quite a bit.. that's why those other terroists were holding him down.
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05-15-2004, 04:50 PM
i still think that article buttocks showed has valid points
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05-15-2004, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyMontana
i still think that article buttocks showed has valid points
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I still think its propoganda.
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05-15-2004, 06:19 PM
losers
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05-15-2004, 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrLevinstein
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyMontana
i still think that article buttocks showed has valid points
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I still think its propoganda.
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could go both ways oOo:
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