[Freakaloin]

i wonder why ppl are such pussies about racist ppl. how bout live and let live. as long as they are hurting anyone just let it go and enjoy ur life.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Arkan:
...the admin on that server was prolly a 14 yr old kid who doesn't really understand the world in which he lives...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You see… That sentence to me is horrifically wrong. Its times like this that I want to know what the f**k is wrong with this world when a 14 year old kid can be taught to be racist. It scares me even more if the admin were a 14 year old kid.. That some ill minded adult would teach this kid to become racist. You may want to argue this point, and im not going to stop you, but the fact is, a kid learns for his elders. He cannot become a racist, unless someone teaches him to be one. I still can’t believe that to some people things are still just black and white…

This post really scares me… It just proves, no matter how much history we go through, no matter what new technologies we make... We can’t change the fact that there are still ill minded people out there, and there only cause is to inflict pain upon others… I hope someone proves me wrong someday…

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~Blaze

[This message has been edited by TheBlazer (edited February 23, 2002).]

i understand what you are saying and i didnt get worked up b/c i was laughing to hard at how bad he sucked

And i do think its was a kid, im not pissed about the language b/c i could turn around and call him "cracker barrrel trailer trash" and WE WOULD NEVER EVER MEET IN REAL LIFE. this is the part that i find funny, im never gonna meet that person so why waste your time slinging racial slurrs to someone that has told you it doesnt bother them?

[Dw mc]

since when are jewish people a seperate race?

[Captain Bunny]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheBlazer:
That some ill minded adult would teach this kid to become racist.
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tv, movies, music industry. all account to that. a kid only has to watch cnn to see what a shitty world he/she lives in. movies show everything from murder to drugs. music, now thats the big influence. eminem and marylin manson etc, they hardly teach good moral values. swearing, talking about drugs etc. and the sad thing is the kids argue that "they tell it how it is". yeah kids wake up!! just cos they tell it how it is doesnt mean you have to follow their lead. todays generation have to learn to be their own person. unfortunatly, mob rules.
little girls are under the impression that the only way to get ahead in life is be stick thin and dress like a tart (britney spears) boys think respect from tough guys is the safe way to go.
there are however the kids that take the different path, and they are the ones who end up being bullied because they are different, as people are afraid of whats different. maybe different is the wrong word to use, lets try....individual.
the parents get the blame for their child, but in a time when human rights practically bar a parent from displining thier kid, and with their sad attitudes to life at such a young age caused by so many outside influences. it only makes it harder.


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I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin. But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.

[Hellbaby2065]

Interesting that you use "gay" as a slur against someone you accuse of being "racist".

You know, another person might have said:
"I just got kicked by a damn Jew for being gay!"

Perhaps you should consider your own bigotry....

[This message has been edited by Hellbaby2065 (edited February 23, 2002).]

[BallisticWookie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hellbaby2065:
Interesting that you use "gay" as a slur against someone you accuse of being "racist".

You know, another person might have said:
"I just got kicked by a damn Jew for being gay!"

Perhaps you should consider your own bigotry....

[This message has been edited by Hellbaby2065 (edited February 23, 2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I was going to say something along those very lines. Anyway, this is wrong, and it shouldnt be tolerated. Pity nobody can do a damn thing about it. A good beating comes to mind, but what did that ever accomplish....

Who cares if its his servers! It not moral. Bet you he was a 12 yr kid!

[This message has been edited by jc84corvette (edited February 23, 2002).]

[Arkan]

1st off, we're all racist to a degree and if you think otherwise, you're full of sh;t too ! Another thing, he's the server and he can kick whoever he wants for any reason. Would you have joined his server if it said "Jews suck server" ?? There's not a damn thing you can do about it even though i don't totally agree with it. I got kicked just for my name "Arkan". The admin told me to change my name or be banned, i told him he can %@#**&#$ ! Well, i was banned and then i started to laugh...just think, i got someone so worked up just over my name . This is a cruel world we live in and not everyone is gonna be pleasant. I say, be pleasant to people 'till they mistreat you....then the doors are open for you to react or not to react. Just don't get worked up over nothing...the admin on that server was prolly a 14 yr old kid who doesn't really understand the world in which he lives, but someday he'll understand it.

Just my .02

Most people are not Racist. A real Racist never shows his true colors, especially in a video game. These are just people who like to piss other people off. Most of the time, if someone comes on a server with an offensive name like "Nigger", he probably is black, trying to stir up up some trouble for fun. Here's a scenario, two white guys - one is balding, the other is not -walk down a street; they bump eachother and a fight ensues. The Guy with the full hair calls the bald one a "bald bastard". Is the guy with the full hair a bigot towards bald people? Here's another scenario: Two guys - one white, the other black - walk down a street; theybump eachother. A fight ensues. White guy calls black guy Nigger...White guy must obviously be racist, right? Point I am trying to make is people tend to see the outside appearnce of someone. And when anger transpires, one cannot help to use offensive language towards the other person's appearance. This does not mean that a person who yells offensive language at someone's race is conspiring to destroy an entire people. The real racist is the one who does not hire a Black person for a job positon, not because he does not like his skin color, but for the fact he thinks his intelligence is inferior because of his origins in Africa. Those are the real racists. Dont get worked up on a server. Most of the time its a stupid kid trying to make himself laugh at his own boring life.

i think people like that ruin the game. After all it's only a game. Dont let him get to you

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[Sindonesia]

cant we all just get along?

Racism is a false premise, commited by people who are ignorant of the facts. There is only one race, to which we all belong, the Human Race. The only difference between a black person, and a white person is, the white persons ancestors left Africa before the black persons. The human race evolved in Africa, go back far enough and we are all Africans. You don't even need to go that far back. Science has shown us that approximately 70,000 years ago the human race was close to extinction, at most there were 74,000 people, at least, 3,000. I know this sounds convoluted but what it means is there is genetically almost no difference between us all. In fact, genetic studies have shown that there is much more genetic difference between, different families of mountain gorillas living on the same mountain, than there is between an Australian aborigine, and an Inuit. We are all basically the same, only fearful, ignorant people, abuse someone because of their colour or religion (or lack of religion), or culture. I say fearful because, unfortunately, there are some people who are afraid of anyone who isn't like them. I say ignorant because these same people don't understand (or want to understand) that there is no difference, only a perceived difference. That is why it is always important to speak out against bigoted comments or acts; to change perceptions. It has been said that, if you hear the same thing over and over, it starts to become true. This is why bigotry has flourished, the only way to end it, is to speak out against it, wherever it is, over and over. Never just walk away from a bigot, tell them what you know to be true. Plant a seed of doubt in their confused minds. If enough people tell them they're wrong, maybe, in time they'll come to see, that they are wrong. Its a long road, but the sooner we start down the road, the sooner we come to the roads end; respect and acceptance of all people.
Some of you will no doubt think this is very long winded, and it is. But it's something I feel very strongly about, so I make no apologies. Thank you for your time.

[alil]

well i think this should be closed all i wanted is to complain abit about being kicked but this is going too far

[This message has been edited by alil (edited February 24, 2002).]

[Hellbaby2065]

I brought up the topic of gays because it is a perfect example of blind hatred.

There are so many people who hate homosexuals that it has sort of become the status quo. So many people use "gay" and "fag" as insults, words used to incite violence. The Nazis really functioned in the same way. They demonized Jews so much that the people of Germany simply accepted what they said as the truth, without questioning or thinking for themselves. As a matter of fact, I still hear people use "Jew" as an insult here in the US. I find this pretty disgusting.

Hating someone because of what someone else says about them is wrong. This is what breeds violence and war.

Another example would be the current conflict in the mideast. Some people I have spoken with really believe that internment camps for the arabs would be a good answer to the problem. Does this sound familiar to anyone? It's really scary how easily people are convinced to hate. It is the reason the U.S. was attacked, and I certainly hope our country does not follow the same road, that we have the presence of mind to stop the downhill slide towards hatred and murder.

P.S.
On the topic of gays:
Some might take offense at this, but homosexuality is probably some type of disorder in my opinion. I'm not really that offended by people jokingly using "fag" or "gay" as jibes, I would sort of equate it with calling someone "retarded". But the real problem is when someone thinks it's OK to commit violence. Would you be so quick to condone violence against a retarded person?