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Default 05-23-2001, 12:51 AM

In our first write up in PC Gamer, they gave a list of all the weapons in the game.

For the German weapons we have:
Walther P38
Mauser KAR 98K
Mauser KAR 98K - sniper version (adds the scope)
MP40
MP44
Steilhandgranate (sp? , better known as the potato masher grenade
Panzerschrek
MG42 - mounted machine gun turrets


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Default 05-23-2001, 09:20 AM

You say there about 19 different weapons, german and american. How about the german Bergmann MP34, MP44, and the MG34?
  
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Default 05-24-2001, 08:27 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Raymond:
You say there about 19 different weapons, german and american. How about the german Bergmann MP34, MP44, and the MG34?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Default 05-27-2001, 01:59 AM

Didn't the Soviets get the idea for the AK-47 from the Sturmgewehr 44?

  
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Default 05-27-2001, 04:46 AM

The MP44 / StG44 has an interesting story behind it actually. For a brief summary (told to me by my friend who is an avid gun-collector himself , basically there was a gun-smith (who's name I don't know off the top of my head) who wanted to create a new fully automatic rifle, but Hitler was dead set against it and wanted a new sub-machinegun instead. So the gun-smith went ahead and created it anyways, but called it the MP44 (machine pistol) while it was in production. So when they were finally put into the field, they primarily were first deployed along the Russian front. Later, when the troops along the front were asked what they needed supply wise, they really wanted more of this MP44, they were very amazed by the weapon and how it handled. After that Hitler got word of what it really was and then the name was changed to StG44. As to what happened to the gun-smith, I'm not sure. I think he was let off due to the success of the weapon, even though he went behind Hitler's back about it.

But being deployed along the Russian front, the Russians got their hands on a few of course and from what I've been told, yes the AK-47 was taking from the StG44. I believe that the MP5 was also a derrivative from the StG44 as well. If you look at the weapon, it looks to have the front end of an AK-47, and the back-end of an MP5 .

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Default 05-27-2001, 05:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by elmagoo:
The MP44 / StG44 has an interesting story behind it actually. For a brief summary (told to me by my friend who is an avid gun-collector himself , basically there was a gun-smith (who's name I don't know off the top of my head) who wanted to create a new fully automatic rifle, but Hitler was dead set against it and wanted a new sub-machinegun instead. So the gun-smith went ahead and created it anyways, but called it the MP44 (machine pistol) while it was in production. So when they were finally put into the field, they primarily were first deployed along the Russian front. Later, when the troops along the front were asked what they needed supply wise, they really wanted more of this MP44, they were very amazed by the weapon and how it handled. After that Hitler got word of what it really was and then the name was changed to StG44. As to what happened to the gun-smith, I'm not sure. I think he was let off due to the success of the weapon, even though he went behind Hitler's back about it.

But being deployed along the Russian front, the Russians got their hands on a few of course and from what I've been told, yes the AK-47 was taking from the StG44. I believe that the MP5 was also a derrivative from the StG44 as well. If you look at the weapon, it looks to have the front end of an AK-47, and the back-end of an MP5 .

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Woah, thanks!

  
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Default 05-27-2001, 07:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by elmagoo:

MP40

Schmeisser MP40

MP44

Sturmgewehr44



Steilhandgranate (sp?

Stielhandgranate

Panzerschrek

Panzerschreck
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Default 06-01-2001, 01:04 AM

to fenris: hugo schmeisser is not the developer of the MP40!!!!!!!!
  
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Default 06-01-2001, 01:05 AM

to fenris: hugo schmeisser is not the developer of the MP40!!!!!!!!
  
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Default 06-08-2001, 02:08 AM

The AK 47 is a "mix" out of the Sturmgewehr44, the Schmeisser MP 40, the Russian PPSH SMG and a Russian rifle i forgot.

@Raymond: Und wer war der Erfinder der MP 40?

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Default 06-08-2001, 02:24 AM

is there going to be a m1 carbine for the allies elmagoo? that would be cool
  
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Default 06-09-2001, 01:20 AM

The M1 was like the first gun that they modeled.
  
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Default 06-09-2001, 02:55 AM

m1 carbines are different, they were shorter and had a 15 shot clip or 10 I forget, different from the garand
  
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Default 06-09-2001, 04:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hells-Angel:
m1 carbines are different, they were shorter and had a 15 shot clip or 10 I forget, different from the garand <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ohhh... sorry about that.

  
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Default 06-09-2001, 05:33 AM

I hope they include a BFG-9000 in there...

Hell, a super duper mega incredibly powerful
machine gun needle thrower would be fun too :-)
  
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