[Pyro]

Originally Posted by Noctis

Democracy is obviously not working since we are the most wealthy and powerful nation in the world. oOo:

That time will cease to exist soon enough.

[Drew]

Originally Posted by Pyro

That time will cease to exist soon enough.

Yes, soon coming is the day when Canada shall rule the world with an iron baton in the hand of a Mounty.

[Pyro]

Originally Posted by Noctis

Yes, soon coming is the day when Canada shall rule the world with an iron baton in the hand of a Mounty.

Not Canada my bet. No Empire has ruled the world forever, and AMerica is not even an empire. So sooner or later, hopefully as later as possible, america won't be the superpower.

I enjoy being the country beside the superpower...a good life with none of the shit to deal with.

[Short Hand]

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[Snuff]

[quote="Old Reliable":07b75]um no, cause each person works at their own will, so basically there will be a demand for your goods, you produce and in turn other people produce for you. and also for people who don't want to work, they can move on to a nother trade where they are more specialised[/quote:07b75]

That's a pretty optimistic and naive view. There will always be someone who will want to sit on their ass while someone else works. It's not a matter of what trade they like. It's just that some people are lazy fucks and won't pull their own weight.

[Old Reliable]

haha, the success is only temporary. do we have a solution to the shortage of oil? and other natural resources? also when the environment goes to shit and bottled water is 10 dollars per bottle, whats going to happen? time to start living in the future

[Drew]

...............I don't even know how to respond to that. That doesn't even make sense.

Even if we were a bunch of Communists, we'd still run out of oil without the discovery of a viable alternative energy source. Same goes for all the other natural resources.

I'm assuming that you feel that this would not be the case because communism calls for equal distribution of resources, thereby eliminating mass consumption. But let's keep this in mind: with Communism, everyone will suddenly be given gasoline, even people who didn't have it prior. More people will have access to running water, etc etc.

[Old Reliable]

Of course it makes sense. you're oblivious to the damage being done to the environment, so when you realise it then you can talk about it. anyways we're not talking about communism. no government seems to work for everyone

[KTOG]

Fuck it, lets all just take cyanide capsules.

[Coleman]

Originally Posted by KTOG

Fuck it, lets all just take cyanide capsules.

sounds like a plan. But first, we must buy Nike sneakers and live on offical grounds and mix stuff in our applesauce.

[KTOG]

We should reenact the Heavens Gate cult suicides but use rufees instead.

[Drew]

[quote="Old Reliable":9d628]Of course it makes sense. you're oblivious to the damage being done to the environment, so when you realise it then you can talk about it. anyways we're not talking about communism. no government seems to work for everyone[/quote:9d628]

All I'm saying is that NO government could stop damage to the ecosystem. Humans are parasitical by nature and always have been. We are simply parasites. We consume natural resources and have no way to properly balance our consumption.

You are thinking way, way too small on this. What you need to realize is that the Earth has been around for millions of years. The Earth has ways of renewing and cleansing itself that we can't possibly fathom, because man, in the sense of being aware of the Earth's condition, has been around for a very short period of time.

What is happening to the environment is going to happen, period. No radical group of extremists or general hippy uprising on the internet will ever cease man's taxation of his surrounding environment. That's just who we are.

People had the same types of opinions decades, centuries and even millenia ago about the state of the environment. They said the world would end for any number of reasons. According to a prediction from the 80s, we should've run out of oil nearly a decade ago. Let's face it, we don't know everything. We say that we know more than any generation before us, and that their ideas were silly while our's are scientifically sound. What will the laughing scientists say of our oil paranoia or of us freaking out over "global warming" in the future when science develops further?

In short, hippies are naive morons. Thank you.

[Old Reliable]

well humans represent .01% of earth's existence, and we've only really begun to pollute the world in the past 200 or so years. it has accelerated immensly in the past 20, so i'm just saying there is a need for concern that isn't matched by the government's concern.

[Drew]

I agree that we should be conscious of our environmental impact to a degree, but I don't feel that we should call democracy a failure because you don't necessarily agree with their handling of environmental issues. Or government as a whole, I guess.

When it comes down to government or anarchy, I'd bet my house that government will be better for the environment any day. So I guess I'm confused as to what you feel is the alternative?

[Old Reliable]

yeah i'm not totally positive on an alternative either, but i favour more the swiss style of government with much more representative form. usa is one of most difficult places to govern due to its diversity and *ahem* ignorance and independence of sorts. lets just say things could be much better, but what can i do sleeping: