at lest before you got youre moneys worth of plastic with the other ps2, because thats all the ps2 is good for...being melted down and sold on sleeping:
Id buy one if they bothered to include the fucking hard drive in it. Ripping games to the hard drive is obviously more convenient than wasting a DVD to play it - and the difference in load times is significant. Even a freaking slim hard drive bay like a notebook bay would be preferable.