[geRV]

If hitler had not invaded russia more than likely the outcome of the war would have been very different. I dont agree with ths american "anti russia" stance that seems to be present here either. Winston Churchill was the one that stirred the shit between america and russia with his Iron Curtain speech.

I dont now what was preached in ameria during the "cold war" but most likely it was BS propoganda about what russians were like and the same thing goes for Russias propoganda about americans.

Ireland was netural in the war and quite frankly i couldn't give a fuck what side won. The politics in Northern Ireland are well known and anything would have been better than the last 25 years of hate over here.



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ONCE MORE UNTO THE BEACH =)

[blade]

Wait a sec..

He was stating a FALSE fact and I was correcting him



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[geRV]

on another note damn this is a big thread

[EaSyTrIcK50]

I just had an opinion, I wan't talking about historically accurate information. I just believed that America played a more important role. I wasn't saying that they did for certain, the only way we could figure that out is go back in time and convince Roosevelt not to get involved.

[laff]

If it weren't for the U.S. i doubt D-day would of happened. plus, after pearl harbor Japan was very close to invading the U.S. Luckily we sent our troops to the south pacific quickly to halt them from invading the u.s I mean think about we haven't had a war fought in the U.S. since the war of 1812. and the war didn't last a long time.
the only reason wars aren't fought in america is because we have 2 oceans that seperate us from the whole world. And it would be very hard to manage and ship over supplies if there was a foriegn invasion. In modern day there will never be another D-day because the losses would be devastating.
theres my opinion.......

[EaSyTrIcK50]

I have mentioned the British a bunch. And i don't hate Russians, I know if it weren't for them a whole lot more Americans would have died. So stop putting words in people's mouths.

SCREW YOU CONVICT!!!!!!!!
Just kidding!

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Caparzo

[Kaiser]

LOL convict!

[Kaiser]

couldnt have said it better myself Partisan

[EaSyTrIcK50]

OK atleast we're all starting to lighten up. Look at the evolution of this thread it is amazing. First we all agreed a MOH2 would be cool. Then we said why not play as the Germans. I went on to say a Pacific theater would be fun. While Kaiser introduced the idea of a Russian POV. Blade ans I disagreed and said that would be boring. (but waht could be more exciting then fighting the nazis and training kamikazze dogs?) We then got into an argument about who did more for the war. Blade and Kaiser had major fact fight. Kaiser was reinforced heavily by some intersting books, but Blade held his own. Until Blade decided he was done with this thread. We all eventually started to lighten up. Now let's really start thinking up plans for a MOH2 and not argue eh? Nice topic Interested viewer.

[blade]

Heres a little joke for ya, Kaiser!!

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[-Waffenampt-]

The War was a Large Event that spaned more then half a decade. Trying to Cram all the rest of the war besides Normadie to Belin in just one Game; Moh II would be a mistake. I would like to see as many Moh sequeals as there are Rambo movies.

Personally, It would be very exciting for World War I combat, Late war as a German "Sturm-Truppen" running around with my Squad with nothing but two giant hand gernade bags, tossing them at anything that moves and protected the helmet additional armor plating and vest - type armor. Trying to dodge Machine Gun Fire brought on by Hotchkisses and Vickers, not to mention trying to knock out the slow moving but heavly armored Mk I female and male British Tanks. Along with the Lighter American and French Cavalery Tanks.

That would be "Hot."

As I am sure you are just so excited to hear my opinion of the Moh II topic. I Think Moh II should Follow the Americans in the Pacific Theater. Then make a companion series called "Knights Cross" That covers the Early War Campaigns. Poland, Norway, France and the low countries. Then the Second part covering the Earlier and More Mid-war actions and battle. Yugoslavia, Greece, the Afrika Korps, and what would be simply outstanding : The Invasion of Crete. Early Barbarossia, to Stalingrad... Good God I could go on forever..

Why not "Sim Reich?"

[-Waffenampt-]

Oh, And I would also like to just though this in..

German Losses per theater

Theater Dead %
Africa 16.066 0,3
Balkans 103.693 1,9
North 30.165 0,6
West 339.957 6,4
Italy 150.660 2,8
Eastern Front (- Dec 1944) 2.742.909 51,6
Germany (1945) 1.230.045 23,1
Various 245.561 4,6
Total 4.859.056

POW - France 34.033 0,6
POW - UK 21.033 0,4
POW - US 22.000 0,4
POW - USSR 363.343 6,8
POW - Yugoslavia 11.000 0,2
POW - Various 8.066 0,2

Total 5.318.531

POW Dead %
France 34.033 3,6
UK 21.033 0,5
US 22.000 0,7
USSR 363.343 11,8
Yugoslavia 11.000 5,8
Various 8.066 4,7
Total 459.475

(% of number imprisoned)
Source: "Deutsche militärische Verluste im Zweiten Weltkrieg" by Rüdiger Overmans
Killed in action, Missing in action, Prisoners

1941
3rd quarter 2.129.677
4th quarter 1.007.996
1941 - Total 3.137.673
1942
1st quarter 675.315
2nd quarter 842.898
3rd quarter 1.224.495
4th quarter 515.508
1942 - Total 3.258.216
1943
1st quarter 726.714
2nd quarter 191.904
3rd quarter 803.856
4th quarter 589.955
1943 - Total 2.312.429
1944
1st quarter 570.791
2nd quarter 344.258
3rd quarter 510.790
4th quarter 338.082
1944 - Total 1.763.891
1945
1st quarter 557.521
2nd quarter 243.296
1945 - Total 800.817

War against Germany (total) 11.273.026

War against Japan 12.031

Total 11.285.057

Wounded

1941
3rd quarter 687.626
4th quarter 648.521
1941 - Total 1.336.147
1942
1st quarter 1.179.457
2nd quarter 706.647
3rd quarter 1.283.062
4th quarter 941.896
1942 - Total 4.111.062
1943
1st quarter 1.425.692
2nd quarter 490.637
3rd quarter 2.060.805
4th quarter 1.567.940
1943 - Total 5.545.074
1944
1st quarter 1.572.742
2nd quarter 965.208
3rd quarter 1.545.442
4th quarter 1.031.358
1944 - Total 5.114.750
1945
1st quarter 1.594.635
2nd quarter 618.055
1945 - Total 2.212.690

War against Germany (total) 18.319.723

War against Japan 24.425

Total 18.344.148

[Von Paulus]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Caparzo:
SCREW YOU CONVICT!!!!!!!!
Just kidding!
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If you aint careful, I'll sic me dingo on you...And my pet Koala "Grub" gets real pissed off when he's been drinkin...

Ok we need more peeps to say good things about British now...
Burgen say something about the British...
Anyone say ANYTHING about the British so that I can get involved...ANYTHING!!!

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Caparzo