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[quote=CeltFury]

Originally Posted by "Pfc.Green":27579

Apples are evil, bad...bad.

Stupid apples. They are the root of all evil in the world. [/quote:27579]

They taste pretty damn good.

[CeltFury]

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Originally Posted by CeltFury

Stupid apples. They are the root of all evil in the world.

They taste pretty damn good.[/quote:423e2]

Yes but over many years of eating them they form a line of applesauce around your stomach causing it to eat itself

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[quote=CeltFury]

Originally Posted by Sniped

They taste pretty damn good.

Yes but over many years of eating them they form a line of applesauce around your stomach causing it to eat itself [/quote:15c4d]

But, But, But...*Panting*, *Hits the floor*...

[CeltFury]

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Originally Posted by CeltFury

Yes but over many years of eating them they form a line of applesauce around your stomach causing it to eat itself

But, But, But...*Panting*, *Hits the floor*...[/quote:21e3a]

No! You can't die not now! *cries* *Beats Sniped chest* Live Damn You, Live! *Gives mouth to mouth*

[FWB]

Well I'm certainly behind option two, for a fewreasons:

1) I refuse to believe humans are born evil or good.
2) Society dictates what is evil and good
3) Everything is a social construction, so even putting aside the fact that the definitions are created by society, human beings are socially constructed; so are their actions. With that said I am not suggesting one can thus lift the burden of responsibility from oneself since a) we contribute to society and b) one has to draw certain lines at certain points for society to "function".

[SoLiDUS]

Well, aside from the apple people, we've had some insightful posts here.

What are YOUR views on the topic Alias ?

[CeltFury]

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Well, aside from the apple people, we've had some insightful posts here.

What are YOUR views on the topic Alias ?

Hey, I can be serious when I need to be

I think society obviously dictates good or evil. People who are evil are often sadistic. I would have though being evil may have been started during hard times when you feel hated and low making you mad. But then again you make the choice of what to do. You always have control over what your doing I think.

[Alias]

....turns off Chris De Burghs "Lady in Red".....

A wise man knows what he does not know Solidus. I happen to lean more so to option A. We are all born with the capability to commit what "society' has deemed evil. Factors such as environment, and mental health affect these capabilities. There are so many routes here that I would not dare believe I am right. This is why I asked the question Here is a point to think about as well:

"If what you say is true, then the statement is absurd which affirms that a man often does evil knowingly when he might abstain, because he is seduced and overpowered by pleasure…That this is ridiculous will be evident if only we give up the use of various names, such as 'pleasant' and 'good'…Let us say that a man does evil knowing that he does evil. But someone will ask: "Why?" "Because he is overcome" is the first answer. "And by what is he overcome?" the inquirer will proceed to ask. And we shall no longer be able to reply "By pleasure", for instead of 'pleasure' it has taken another name, namely 'the good'. "By the good" we shall have to reply…But our questioner will rejoin with a laugh: "That is too ridiculous, that a man should do what he knows to be evil when he ought not, because he is overcome by good."

Man does what is in his best interest, so therefor, can it be concidered Evil?

[mr.miyagi]

Originally Posted by FWB

Well I'm certainly behind option two, for a fewreasons:

1) I refuse to believe humans are born evil or good.
2) Society dictates what is evil and good
3) Everything is a social construction, so even putting aside the fact that the definitions are created by society, human beings are socially constructed; so are their actions. With that said I am not suggesting one can thus lift the burden of responsibility from oneself since a) we contribute to society and b) one has to draw certain lines at certain points for society to "function".

im in agreement.
god damn it, you're all bringing back the memories of my 2 years studying of the human mind in Psychology, I've done pages and pages of work on this stuff. Psychology is the biggest load of bollocks subject ever. Trust me, its basically putting big silly words in complicated order to try and hide the fact no-one knows shit about the human mind really. yes its interesting but theres no right or wrong answers. its the most subjective of subjects ever.
i've can't think of the correct name for this argument at this moment in time but its all about the shaping of the person as they grow up. environmental effects or human interaction.......====
HOLD ON, I'VE REMEMBERED::ITS THE 'NATURE-NURTURE DEBATE'
GOD, i did an essay on that
i also did one all about 'can people be born leaders' which was annoying.
well anyway, i agree with FWB

mr.miyagi-that was a silly post miyagi
mr.miyagi=yea i know, i was jus thinking out aloud but typing it too
mr.miyagi-you're a bit of an idiot miyagi
mr.miyagi=thats why i'm on that wall over there
mr.miyagi-but i still love you
mr.miyagi=thanks darling, whats for dinner tonight?
mr.miyagi-apples
mr.miyagi=...not again.

[Alias]

lol miyagi, I would really place this more in the Philosophy catagory. The importance is not so much placed on the psycological understanding of what is evil, but the philosophical beliefs that everyone has.

[SoLiDUS]

[quote:79f29]Psychology is the biggest load of bollocks subject ever. Trust me, its basically putting big silly words in complicated order to try and hide the fact no-one knows shit about the human mind really. yes its interesting but theres no right or wrong answers. its the most subjective of subjects ever. [/quote:79f29]

That's what I've been telling people over and over...

Subjective topics cannot have ONE DEFINITIVE ANSWER, only multiple
parts that once put together will yield an answer that you may not like but
will have to accept as valid.

Face it, people aren't born evil: they do, however, have the capacity for it
because they possess free will. Your set and setting greatly affect how you
see the world, act with and react to it.

This is what I like to call multifactorial: no one definitive answer, just
dependent on several factors.

[Mr.X]

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Face it, people aren't born evil: they do, however, have the capacity for it
because they possess free will. Your set and setting greatly affect how you
see the world, act with and react to it.

This is what I like to call multifactorial: no one definitive answer, just
dependent on several factors.

...agreed...can I go as far as to say free will is the definitive answer...?

[Slinky2397]

You forgot afrodj13!! You're evil!