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Default 22nd Amendment - 06-14-2005, 10:06 PM

stubled across this, and im starting to wonder... stupid:


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c ... .RES.24.IH:
  
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Default 06-14-2005, 10:27 PM

Chances are this is a republican ... or a democrat that submitted this awhile that is now kicking himself.
  
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Default 06-14-2005, 10:35 PM

Funny...I was just reading this.

The guy who submitted it is a Democrat... House Democratic Whip Steny H.
Hoyer I do believe, unless there is another guy named Hoyer.

http://democraticwhip.house.gov/about_t ... er/bio.cfm

http://pabaah.com/modules.php?name=News ... le&sid=706

[quote:de58e]FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 17, 2005

CONTACT:
Stacey Farnen Bernards
(202) 225 - 3130
Hoyer Introduces Bipartisan Bill to Repeal 22nd Amendment
Resolution Would Repeal Two-Term Limit for President, Restore Power to the People

WASHINGTON, DC – House Democratic Whip Steny H. Hoyer (MD) introduced bipartisan legislation today to repeal the 22nd amendment, which states that “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.” Representatives Berman (D-CA), Pallone (D-NJ), Sabo (D-MN) and Sensenbrenner (R-WI) joined Hoyer in sponsoring the resolution.

Representative Hoyer released the following statement regarding the resolution:

“I introduced today a joint resolution to repeal outright the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution. The 22nd Amendment requires that no person who has served two terms, or who has served more than two years of another President’s term and their own elected term, be permitted to serve another term of office.

“The time has come to repeal the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, and not because of partisan politics. While I am not a supporter of the current President, I feel there are good public policy reasons for a repeal of this amendment. Under the Constitution as altered by the 22nd Amendment, this must be President George W. Bush’s last term even if the American people should want him to continue in office. This is an undemocratic result.

“Under the resolution I offer today, President Bush would not be eligible to run for a third term. However, the American people would have restored to themselves and future generations an essential democratic privilege to elect who they choose in the future.

“A limitation on the terms that a President could serve was not fully discussed by the Founding Fathers. However, Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist Paper 72, recognized that one important benefit of not having term limits on the President would be:

“to enable the people, when they see reason to approve of his conduct, to continue him in the station in order to prolong the utility of his talents and virtues, and to secure to the government the advantage of permanency in a wise system of administration.”

“After President George Washington retired after serving two terms, a custom emerged that was not broken until President Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected to four terms. The people chose President Roosevelt because they desired trusted and effective leadership.

“We do not have to rely on rigid constitutional standards to hold our Presidents accountable. Sufficient power resides in the Congress and the Judiciary to protect our country from tyranny. As the noted attorney and counsel to Presidents, Clark Clifford, said:

“I believe we denigrate ourselves as an enlightened people, and our political process as a whole, in imposing on ourselves still further disability to retain tested and trusted leadership. The Congress and the Judiciary are now and will remain free to utilize their own countervailing constitutional power to forestall any executive overreaching.”

“Furthermore, a ‘lame duck’ President serving in his second term is less effective dealing with the Congress and the bureaucracy than a President should be. I do not believe that the people want a popularly chosen President who will be weakened in a second term. The removal of the President from politics as prescribed by the 22nd Amendment has the effect of removing the President from the accountability to political forces that come to bear during regular elections every four years.

“The 22nd Amendment reflects a fundamental distrust of the judgment of the American people. However, trust of the good sense of the people is one of the cornerstones of democracy.

“In 1820, Thomas Jefferson wrote:

“I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion.”

“I believe the repeal of the 22nd Amendment will restore power to the people themselves and make our Constitution more democratic. I hope my colleagues will join me in this effort.”[/quote:de58e]

http://democraticwhip.house.gov/media/p ... aseID=1028

Don't really know why he would want to do that...since the republicans have been in office now for the past 2 terms. I think it would make more sense if he waited until the dems got back into the white house.

A third term by Bush would scare the living shit out of me, but here in Canada a PM doesn't have to retire after 2 terms. They can serve as many times as the people elect him. Jean Chretien was in power for 10 years I believe.
  
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Default 06-15-2005, 05:49 AM

Jean could have gone aniother 10.
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 07:48 AM

I think i can see the underlying plan. It usually takes a couple years for something like this to come into legislation. Bush will be out of office by the time this could pass. The following presidents term is when it will be enacted. As trends show, there is a good chance of a democratic leader in the next election. Therefor, they believe that this next president will look amazing compared to Bush and will have an oppurtunity for 3+ terms.
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 10:28 AM

Chances are Mcain & Guliani will sweep next election. War vet + dumbass = unbeatable..
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 10:28 AM

[img]http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/t/3/t3b/Tom'smediafolder/media%20SpCom%20597c%20spring%202002/FDR%20fireside%20chat%20March%201933.jpg[/img]

No one I know of has deserved more than two years in a long time...
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 10:34 AM

[quote="Short Hand":9faf8]Chances are Mcain & Guliani will sweep next election. War vet + dumbass = unbeatable..[/quote:9faf8]

zzzzz

Hillary all the way cool:
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 10:47 AM

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Chances are Mcain & Guliani will sweep next election. War vet + dumbass = unbeatable..
zzzzz

Hillary all the way cool:[/quote:5c9ec]happy: omg fuckadude


  
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Default 06-16-2005, 11:00 AM

Funny thing is that she's one of the finer looking First Ladies. Jackie O. > all though.
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 11:03 AM

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Funny thing is that she's one of the finer looking First Ladies..
[img]http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/leoploeb/GLASSES.GIF[/img]



me thinks you need these
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 11:32 AM

Compared to Barbara Bush, Martha Washington and Eleanor Roosevelt, she's a hottie.
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 12:13 PM

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Compared to Barbara Bush, Martha Washington and Eleanor Roosevelt, she's a hottie.

thats like saying Rosanne Barr is a hottie compared to Queen Latefia (sp?)
  
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Default 06-16-2005, 12:25 PM

I'm sorry, but Queen Latifah is way hotter than that overgrown walking testicle with ears.
  
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