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07-21-2005, 04:48 PM
[quote=rdeyes]
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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":00e63
at least they cant reproduce!
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true , but they can always adopt
annoy:[/quote:00e63]
Not in the state of Kansas.
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Staff Sergeant
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07-21-2005, 08:29 PM
heres a little religious background, though not quoted, the bible says man should marry women. Though pretty simple and clear, however, in the actual context of it, it bring about the interpretation that you can marry whom ever you want as long as theyre human.
Now for my opinion. I agree, marry whom ever you like, love is love, noone can stop that, and now they have linked homosexuality to hormones and other biological means which is essentially linked to genetics. they have also done this for transvestites. on a legal stand point, i dont think they should get the same rights as a heterosexual married couple, only a few, especially those pretaining and concerned those with children if they were to adopt or to have a surreget mother/father
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Command Sergeant Major
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07-21-2005, 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper101
heres a little religious background, though not quoted, the bible says man should marry women. Though pretty simple and clear, however, in the actual context of it, it bring about the interpretation that you can marry whom ever you want as long as theyre human.
Now for my opinion. I agree, marry whom ever you like, love is love, noone can stop that, and now they have linked homosexuality to hormones and other biological means which is essentially linked to genetics. they have also done this for transvestites. on a legal stand point, i dont think they should get the same rights as a heterosexual married couple, only a few, especially those pretaining and concerned those with children if they were to adopt or to have a surreget mother/father
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everything you said was false...
I don't see how you can interpret the bible saying for man to marry woman into thinking that it means marry a human... And that's not the only biblical reference to homosexuality...
also, I have yet to see any genetic evidence that shows homosexuality to be natural...think about it, the whole concept of evolution would suggest that humans become more and more adaptive to continue the race, homosexuality is counterproductive to procreation and therefore would not fit with the model of evolution at all, in fact by darwin's theory, homosexuality should have been weeded out years ago... just think about it
I am not against treating gays fairly, I just don't think that it is natural or biblically moral and that's why I'm against the whole concept of homosexuality being alright.
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Senior Member
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07-22-2005, 12:13 AM
[quote="Short Hand":5bc07][quote="Sgt>Stackem":5bc07]at least they cant reproduce![/quote:5bc07]
They ?...... annoy:[/quote:5bc07]
Im sorry, should I have said you?
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Major General
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07-22-2005, 12:26 AM
[quote="Sgt>Stackem":c0fd9][quote="Short Hand":c0fd9][quote="Sgt>Stackem":c0fd9]at least they cant reproduce![/quote:c0fd9]
They ?...... annoy:[/quote:c0fd9]
Im sorry, should I have said you?[/quote:c0fd9]i'm sorry, i found that funny.
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Brigadier General
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07-22-2005, 05:52 AM
can both of you say "homophobia" ?
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2nd Lieutenant
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07-22-2005, 07:35 AM
Short you seem to throw that word around anytime somebody disagrees with you on this subject. You also call people fags and homos when they disagree with you on other subjects. Please try to show some consistency in your posting.
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Command Sergeant Major
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07-22-2005, 07:38 AM
[quote="Short Hand":dafe8]can both of you say "homophobia" ?[/quote:dafe8]
phobia would suggest I fear homosexuals. I do not fear them, I just don't agree that their chosen lifestyle is natural or biblically moral
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Brigadier General
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07-22-2005, 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnj
Short you seem to throw that word around anytime somebody disagrees with you on this subject. You also call people fags and homos when they disagree with you on other subjects. Please try to show some consistency in your posting.
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I try to avoid using that word. Yes it has slipped in the past, but as of late as in the last year or so no chance. You can trace that back to about the time I had my liberal makeover and the big debate with tgb over Iraq. I admit myself it was a mistake using it, but unlike most people Ill face it and over come that hidden bit of homophobia I had in myself. That is the difference between me.. and all of you. Until you really face it.. you can't deny it is not there.
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Chief of Staff General
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07-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Why the fuck should we use the bible to tell us how to run our lives. fuck that piece of shit book and live the life the way YOU want too, not the way a BOOK tells you too.
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Senior Member
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Location: Detroit, MI
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07-22-2005, 02:50 PM
I am as far from being homophobic as one can be. If you are gay it doenst bother me in the least. To each thier own, who am I to judge? I said "they" because I was refering to the people in the origional post, thats all. If you wanna ride the hershey highway feel free to do so, its just not my bag of tea
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1st Lieutenant
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07-22-2005, 03:31 PM
Im glad for this, Canada is moving forwards not backwards. With the whole religious and biblical talk about how they should not be able to get married, all that crap goes out the windows since married couples get benefits and tax cuts. If every religion wants to have there own rules without the tax breaks and benefits from the government then ok, they shouldn’t be married. But since there are tax breaks and benefits then any couple should be allowed to be able to have those same benefits no matter whom you are.
George Carlin on religion: [quote:2570a]Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man...living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.[/quote:2570a]
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Command Sergeant Major
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07-22-2005, 03:33 PM
[quote="Short Hand":0f024]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnj
Short you seem to throw that word around anytime somebody disagrees with you on this subject. You also call people fags and homos when they disagree with you on other subjects. Please try to show some consistency in your posting.
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I try to avoid using that word. Yes it has slipped in the past, but as of late as in the last year or so no chance. You can trace that back to about the time I had my liberal makeover and the big debate with tgb over Iraq. I admit myself it was a mistake using it, but unlike most people Ill face it and over come that hidden bit of homophobia I had in myself. That is the difference between me.. and all of you. Until you really face it.. you can't deny it is not there.[/quote:0f024]
and they call the right brainwashed....
the concept of homophobia is a joke. its an attempt to try to make people's opinions unacceptable.
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Command Sergeant Major
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07-22-2005, 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro
Why the fuck should we use the bible to tell us how to run our lives. fuck that piece of shit book and live the life the way YOU want too, not the way a BOOK tells you too.
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you seem awfully confident for something you can't be entirely sure about.
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