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				08-26-2002, 05:12 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Alright, I have been pondering this very thought for years and would like to see what you guys (and maybe gals) think about this.  Speaking from personal experience, I believe that there is a natural desire in males to cheat.  For the past ten years, I have had for the most part a steady girlfriend, and I have cheated on every one of them.  I am by no means bragging of this accomplishment.  In fact, I am kinda embarrassed by it.  I have been madly in love with some of these women, but when I am put in a situation where another female shows attraction and some desire, I move on my "instincts".   
 
Which brings me to the school of thought that it is in my biological make-up to for lack of a better term, "spread my seed".  You will notice in the majority of the mammals, that males are not monogomous, but tend to look over a group of females.  Now I know this can be a whole different debate, but in my eyes, we are merely animals as well.  And as such, we retain some of these instincts.  You will even notice in many cultures prior to being exposed to Christianity, that polygamy was quite common.  To me, this belief that a man should be faithful to his mate is a complete battle against his nature, and because of this he is doomed to fail.  Looking around my circle of friends, not one of the men has managed to stay faithful to his significant other.  Some of them love their spouse to death and would do anything for them, but eventually temptation has proven to be too much and they give in. 
 
Anyway, thoughts from others out there?  Am I completely off base?  Or if you really think about it, does have a ring of truth to it? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:16 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
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				08-26-2002, 05:21 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Do u have any tips on how to get girls?  Just wondering thanks. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:31 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		yeah, u got a good point there and i think men are natured to cheat  angel: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:34 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Someone, I won't mention names... told me that Jc has cheated on his boyfriend with an obese farm animal. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:35 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="Bean 2":a5f89]Do u have any tips on how to get girls?  Just wondering thanks.[/quote:a5f89] 
 
I use to have the hardest time getting girls.  I was the nice shy guy, who tried to be the perfect gentleman.  Guess what?  That doesn't work very well these days.  I have found, at least in the places that I hang out, that women like cocky, arrogant, outspoken men.  But there is a fine line with that approach.  You go overboard, and it'll backfire.  I would say that you must show confidence, and a good sense of humor.  Crack witty little jokes that'll get them laughing.  If you can get them to laugh, you are in. 
 
However, take this advice with a grain of salt.  So much depends on the woman and the situation.  With all of my long-term girlfriends, I went with the gentleman approach as I was looking for a relationship.   
 
Anyway, I am sure that there are others out there with some good ideas as well. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:35 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		ed:  ed:  ed:  ed:  ed:  oOo:  oOo:  hake:  hake:  hake: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:42 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote=Totenkopf] 
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					Originally Posted by "Bean 2":e6e34
					
				 
				Do u have any tips on how to get girls?  Just wondering thanks. 
			
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 I use to have the hardest time getting girls.  I was the nice shy guy, who tried to be the perfect gentleman.  Guess what?  That doesn't work very well these days.  I have found, at least in the places that I hang out, that women like cocky, arrogant, outspoken men.  But there is a fine line with that approach.  You go overboard, and it'll backfire.  I would say that you must show confidence, and a good sense of humor.  Crack witty little jokes that'll get them laughing.  If you can get them to laugh, you are in.
 
However, take this advice with a grain of salt.  So much depends on the woman and the situation.  With all of my long-term girlfriends, I went with the gentleman approach as I was looking for a relationship.  
 
Anyway, I am sure that there are others out there with some good ideas as well.[/quote:e6e34]
 
You could try some of that love colonge that I posted a few days ago.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:43 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		btw, y do girls likes older men like 5 yrs ahead of their age?  jus wondering 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:44 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		The only thing that separates us from the animals is reasoning - which is why we do not usually kill each other over something trivial, like, you have a twinky that I want, I brick you death, I have the Twinky   
However, we have been conditioned that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable, we won't get away with it and will be punished for it.
 
Same goes for infidelity - it is "easier" stray if you come from a culture, or upbringing where monogamy was eroded.  The opposite is true of those who hold monogomy as a virtue and will not break it no matter what temptations there are.
 
I have been monogamous for the past 8 years - one woman.  I have been tempted, but never indulged.
 
Would I kill you for a Twinky?  If I could get away it, too right.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:46 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="Blitz-krieg":ef705]btw, y do girls likes older men like 5 yrs ahead of their age?  jus wondering[/quote:ef705] 
 
Supposedly cuz they are more mature.  That's what women tell me anyway.  My girlfriend right now is from Peru, and tells me that the women there are much more attracted to older men as they know where they are going in life, and have goals, yadda yadda yadda.  When I ask her why she likes me so much, only being two years older then her, she admitted that while Peruvians like older men, they like "bad boys" even more. 
 
LOL, I love being a man. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:50 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Oh, forgot, how to get girls 
 
phone the number on the card in the phonebox 
hide in the closet 
pretend to be a doctor 
 
(or is that just me?) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:54 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote="Rev Aristotle Jones":e2fd2]The only thing that separates us from the animals is reasoning - which is why we do not usually kill each other over something trivial, like, you have a twinky that I want, I brick you death, I have the Twinky   
However, we have been conditioned that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable, we won't get away with it and will be punished for it.
 
Same goes for infidelity - it is "easier" stray if you come from a culture, or upbringing where monogamy was eroded.  The opposite is true of those who hold monogomy as a virtue and will not break it no matter what temptations there are.
 
I have been monogamous for the past 8 years - one woman.  I have been tempted, but never indulged.
 
Would I kill you for a Twinky?  If I could get away it, too right.[/quote:e2fd2]
 
I must disagree to an extent.  I believe that a fear of consequences holds most back from killing.  Why have I not killed anyone?  Because, I don't want to become Bubba's b!tch in a state pen.  If there were no law against it, then we would have some big time issues as a society.  On the other hand, there are few consequences to cheating, you will not go to jail, you will not be fined (well, unless a divorce ensues ed: ) etc.  However, if you told me that I would go to jail for ten years if I cheated on my wife or gf, then there is no doubt in my mind that I would think twice about it.  I would not think twice about it because I am breaking some virtue of mine.  
 
Now I don't disagree that there are some out there who can refrain from doing it.  But they are few and far between.  What worries me is that you would never cheat on your mate, due to your beliefs on the wrongdoing of cheating, but you would kill me for a twinky......nice virtue system.  biggrin:  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:54 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		[quote=Totenkopf] 
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					Originally Posted by "Blitz-krieg":c0301
					
				 
				btw, y do girls likes older men like 5 yrs ahead of their age?  jus wondering 
			
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 Supposedly cuz they are more mature.  That's what women tell me anyway.  My girlfriend right now is from Peru, and tells me that the women there are much more attracted to older men as they know where they are going in life, and have goals, yadda yadda yadda.  When I ask her why she likes me so much, only being two years older then her, she admitted that while Peruvians like older men, they like "bad boys" even more.
 
LOL, I love being a man.[/quote:c0301]
 
heh, how old are you btw, if u don't mind me asking?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				08-26-2002, 05:55 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		Just turned a "mature" 28 years old.  ed: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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