Invade Syria? - Page 5

Trunks · 10-31-2005, 01:47 PM

The problem is, that terrorism can not be defeated by force, many a time it has been tried, and it has always failed. Unless of course, you intend to wage a war of extermination, instead of a war on terrorism. And even then, success is not assured. But if you do attain success, you would have to ask yourself, at what cost? TGB, I respect your opinion of course, however, I must disagree with you. America does NOT act the way it does, to be a good country, so to speak. it acts the way it does to protect its interests, as do all countries. And once again, we have to ask ourselves, what exactly does a war on terroism entail?

TGB! · 10-31-2005, 02:09 PM

[quote:ad763]It was imperialism at its finest -[/quote:ad763]

More unsubstatiated bullshit. Where is your evidence that this is "imperialism at its finest"? If you point to Halliburton contracts and oil then you automatically lose. If this were about Imperialism, Iraq wouldnt have passed a constitution recognizing Islam as a source for legislative procedure.

[quote:ad763]and the terrorism therin was caused unnecessarily by american aggression.[/quote:ad763]

And the majority of the terrorist blowing Iraqis up are. . .Iraqis - right? RIGHT??

[quote:ad763]Terrorists, with the exception of 9/11 and London are simply going wherever US or Coalition troops are stationed.[/quote:ad763]

Bali, Madrid, Indonesia, Syria, etc. etc. etc. Tell me another one.

[quote:ad763]If the west would rethink their foreign policy that wasnt so skewed towards Israeli appeasment and Corporate greed[/quote:ad763]

Lord - if ever a response was deserving of an eye-roll emote.

[quote:ad763]Bush may have reacted more aggresively than any of his predecessors have, but what progress has he received with such strength?[/quote:ad763]

Other than removing an oppresive human rights abusing government that openly sponsered terrorism, and taking care of a dictator with numerous human rights abuses who was currently undermining UN resolutions - yea. Nothing much.

[quote:ad763]OBL hasnt been caught, Afghanistan is a blip on the Fox News/CNN streamers nowadays.[/quote:ad763]

Oh my stars and garters - theres no mass murdering going on in Afghanistan - UNACCEPTABLE! Madmart must have constant happenings going on in Afghanistan or the removal of the Towley-Ban wasnt worth it!

[quote:ad763]IMO is dellusional[/quote:ad763]

Thats ok. Youre pretty much showed your opinion isnt too coherent and grounded in any kind of reality. I'm sure if I formed my opinion based on sound-bites and what I get from DailyKos.com I'd feel the same way.

[quote:ad763]Who here can say that prior to the invasion that Iraq was synonomous with terrorism?[/quote:ad763]

Other than the fact that he provided medical support for known terrorists as well as "Suicide Bomber Payoffs" to Palestinians who attacked Israel. . .naw - nothing at all.

[quote:ad763]Bush was wrong about WMDs[/quote:ad763]

As was George Tenet, Congress, and the Brits. Decisions arent made in a vacuum - understandably that undermines your "Fuck Bush" mentality - but credit where credit is due.

[quote:ad763]and its fucking hysterical on how people can still try to justify what he did.[/quote:ad763]

One more time - its narrowminded people like you who need to make the war about WMD. Its not, nor was it solely about WMDS - thats just what was given to the public; that indeed was the admin's mistake - overselling WMD's and underselling the other tangible reasons to remove wacky Saddam from power. But you keep on bleating about WMD's - certainly noone will mistake you for a sheep.

Short Hand · 10-31-2005, 03:32 PM

Suddam never openly sponsored terrorism. More bullshit from your factory.

TGB! · 10-31-2005, 04:05 PM

[quote="Short Hand":60eca]Suddam never openly sponsored terrorism. More bullshit from your factory.[/quote:60eca]

Who's Suddam?

Poseidon · 10-31-2005, 05:26 PM

TGB your soo fucking full of shit, you make it sound like you know what your talking about by making your comments sound "intelligent"

Yet, most of the time you have no argument against us, so just twist what we said round and flame us for a spelling/grammer/ even a slight exaderation of the point we are trying to pass. Your too afraid to admit that some of your bullshit comments are wrong, so you have to completely miss the complete picture and focus on a few minor sections of our posts. Just to find a small mistake to place an argument.

myself, Short, ninety etc have all given legitemate comments/opinions about the war and why it shoudnt have happened, yet most of the time you cannot argue our comments, so you have to flame us for it. Its fucking pathetic.

Short Hand · 10-31-2005, 05:34 PM

While I can be a complete moron and have the grammer level of a two year old, it is my beleif ninty deserves a lot more respect then what he gets around here, same with you poseiden. He never really takes anyone on directly issue for issue.

Poseidon · 10-31-2005, 05:40 PM

[quote="Short Hand":893a7]While I can be a complete moron and have the grammer level of a two year old, it is my beleif ninty deserves a lot more respect then what he gets around here, same with you poseiden. He never really takes anyone on directly issue for issue.[/quote:893a7]

Totally agree. Ninty is a sound guy, he definately needs to be listened to once in a while rock:

TGB! · 10-31-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poseidon

TGB your soo fucking full of shit.

Then you should have NO problem taking what I said and pointing out the fallacy in my statements.

Until then, your reply amounts to a petulant child whining when he cant get what he wants.

And anyone who qualifies anything ShortHand says as "legitimate" and "intelligent" immediately deserves their "I'm Not A Moron" Card to be taken away.

Poseidon · 10-31-2005, 06:40 PM

[quote="TGB!":44ce6]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poseidon

TGB your soo fucking full of shit.

Until then, your reply amounts to a petulant child whining when he cant get what he wants.[/quote:44ce6]

Really, point out exactly which of my statements make me out to be a 'petulant child'? C'mon support your comments with proof and quotes. Not the useless proofless bullshit your coming out with at the moment.

I am not whining, my opinion is legitemate. I've discussed it in previous posts, have a look, quote me exactly what posts of mine appear like im whining.

[quote="TGB!":44ce6]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poseidon

TGB your soo fucking full of shit.

And anyone who qualifies anything ShortHand says as "legitimate" and "intelligent" immediately deserves their "I'm Not A Moron" Card to be taken away.[/quote:44ce6]

This is the first time i've probably supported what Short has ever said on this board. Just because i agree with short has said doesnt necessarily mean I'm a 'moron'. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and should 1 person have a simular opinion about a subject as another 'unliked person' by certain people on the board, doesnt necessarily label me a fucking moron.

Your such a fucking boon. Did you even read my posts? If you had have done you wouldnt have posted the comment you actually made.

TGB! · 10-31-2005, 10:09 PM

Again child, stop the listless posturing and refute what I have said - much of what you are rambling about (and yes you are rambling) is a grand display of ad-hominem theatre. Sound and fury signifying NOTHING. Your opinion on this topic - if you have one - is irrelevant as I did not challange YOUR interpretation of current events. You however denigrated my ability to critique and understand the situation as it stands now so it is up to YOU dear boy to explain why. You see - from A to B, using those brain-cells you feel you proclaim you are possessed of. If what I have written on this topic is fallicious in anyway - by all means DISCREDIT it. Stop waving your dick around SAYING I'm wrong. . .and prove I am. Simple as that. See - I'll help you:

[quote:23472]TGB your soo fucking full of shit, you make it sound like you know what your talking about by making your comments sound "intelligent"[/quote:23472]

Now NORMALLY - a fucking adult would follow that up with a "FOR EXAMPLE" - you didnt do that. . .so - you get the "You're A Tard" Stamp on your forehead. If you can follow-up, by all means do so.

Until then, you remain a child who has no tool to debate with other than pathetic whining -

"Oh Mr. TGB you're so mean and pathetic with your insults. . .WAAH!" -

Madmartagen · 10-31-2005, 10:23 PM

lol, funny how im so stupid cause im really doing exactly what TGB does in every argument he makes. no links, no facts. im just putting my opinions and anything i can think of on the internet, but he doesnt say anything different other than the fact that his points oppose mine. i guess if you dont agree with TGB, you must be a moron or something. whether you believe nintys links or not, he states his opinion and provides articles that support it or provide insight as to how he formulates his theories. TGB just puts his thoughts out on space and marvels how someone could come up with a completely different opinion. this forum is a place of ideas, but some are so fucking obsessed with proving their arguments "right" or "wrong" it just turns into another fagfest.

My words are my opinions as stated by IMO, but i will respond to other ideas.

johnj - i agree we dont belong in iraq as well. but for being in saudi arabia just cause they asked...that may be true, but i think its unfair for us to baby one of the worlds wealthiest nations when we wont send effective defense forces in africa, south america and other places that truly need our help. we're in saudi arabia because they buy our troops like mercenaries. they have money, they have oil, and so we post troops to protect it.

chappy - you dont even know what imperialism is, you fucking twat, so stfu and eat a bucket of man sauce, you cock hungry faggot.

rdeyes · 10-31-2005, 10:42 PM

[quote="Short Hand":56a26]Suddam never openly sponsored terrorism. More bullshit from your factory.[/quote:56a26]

i disagree with that statement

[url="http://www.slate.com/id/2080850/entry/2080855"]http://www.slate.com/id/2080850/entry/2080855[/url]

http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/crespo1.htm

http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?incl ... yid=319351

http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_99/sponsor.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_95358025

happy:

Short Hand · 11-01-2005, 01:43 AM

[quote=rdeyes][quote="Short Hand":2dd14]Suddam never openly sponsored terrorism. More bullshit from your factory.[/quote]

i disagree with that statement

[url="http://www.slate.com/id/2080850/entry/2080855"]http://www.slate.com/id/2080850/entry/2080855[/url]

http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/crespo1.htm

http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?incl ... yid=319351

http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/terror_99/sponsor.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_95358025

happy:[/quote:2dd14]

The administration has no proof yet these websites claim they have some...... ed:

Poseidon · 11-01-2005, 02:27 AM

[quote="TGB!":f3779]Stop waving your dick around SAYING I'm wrong. . .and prove I am. Simple as that. See - I'll help you[/quote:f3779]

i've not once said you're wrong, ive given my opinion yet questioned certain aspects to what other people have said in their opinions, as have you to me. I have answered each opposing question and answered it as fully as I can. I've im a wrong for opposing something someone's opinion, mMaybe you should actually do some research before you post to support your argument.

[quote="TGB!":f3779]
Now NORMALLY - a fucking adult would follow that up with a "FOR EXAMPLE" - you didnt do that. . .so - you get the "You're A Tard" Stamp on your forehead. If you can follow-up, by all means do so. [/quote:f3779]

Yup like 95% of your posts rolleyes:

[quote="TGB!":f3779]Until then, you remain a child who has no tool to debate with other than pathetic whining -

"Oh Mr. TGB you're so mean and pathetic with your insults. . .WAAH!" - [/quote:f3779]

I've said all I need to say about my opinion of the war, of which hsant yet been argued. I was reading and hated the way you critic other peoples posts, seemingly because they have a different opinion.

Sgt>Stackem · 11-01-2005, 06:36 AM

TGB has very valid arguements

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