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11-14-2005, 03:15 PM
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11-14-2005, 03:24 PM
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Why is it such a rivelry?
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Sergeant
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11-14-2005, 03:29 PM
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Good times, i can't wait for UVA vs VT coming soon.
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Won't be quite as exciting now that VaTech lost to Miami. Marcus Vick is no Michael Vick. |
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11-14-2005, 03:33 PM
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Why is it such a rivelry?
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So what makes Ohio State-Michigan so special?
There are other rivalries which are noteworthy, like Florida-Florida State, Alabama-Auburn, USC-UCLA, Army-Navy, and others, but none combine the history (almost 100 meetings) and the annual significance (at least 1 team in the final top 10 every year since 1987, plus only 5 times since 1967 has the the OSU/Michigan game had no impact on the championship of the Big Ten. One team or both either finished first or were first or tied going into the game every year but 1999, 1994, 1987, 1985, and 1983. Plus, over those years, only once has either team had a losing record, OSU in 1988.) No other rivalry can claim this.
One thing fans of other rivalries always cite as a reason this one isn't the best is that it is rather uneven. Michigan does lead the series 55-35-6, but the Wolverines lead 13-0-2 before the 1919 game, and 19-3-2 before the 1928 game. Ohio State's only wins came during the 1919-1921 games. Taking out those first 24 games, the series is Michigan 36, Ohio State 32, 4 ties. It has remained pretty even throughout the time since 1928, when OSU finally started fielding nationally recognized teams.
Michigan has won 795 games in its history (1st overall in NCAA history), and Ohio State has won 717 (7th overall). Ohio State has had 6 Heisman trophy winners, Michigan 3. Between them, the Bucks and Wolves went to 13 consecutive Rose Bowls between 1968-1980 (1969-1981 Rose Bowls). Since 1967, only once (1987) has neither Ohio State nor Michigan finished either first of second in the Big Ten.
How's THIS for amazing? Since World War II (1945), Ohio State has won 421 games (421-144-20). Michigan has won 423! (423-154-15). Can't get much closer than that! Ohio State is 6th overall during that span, while Michigan is tied for 7th with Tennessee and Notre Dame. Since 1960, OSU has a (326-99-10) record-- 4th overall. UM's record is (324-109-10)-- 5th overall. Since 1989, OSU and Michigan have 93 wins apiece. Both are 7th over that span. Pick any period of time between 1900 and 1998 and Ohio State and Michigan are both in the top 10 overall of wins. Amazing. Compare the 20th century win total of OSU and Michigan (671+ 695= 1366) to those of Florida and Florida State (545+ 369= 914) or Alabama and Auburn (713+ 579= 1292) or Army and Navy (579+ 506= 1085), and tell me what the greatest rivalry of the 20th century is. |
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11-14-2005, 03:43 PM
[quote="Sgt>Stackem":2e267]
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Why is it such a rivelry?
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So what makes Ohio State-Michigan so special?
There are other rivalries which are noteworthy, like Florida-Florida State, Alabama-Auburn, USC-UCLA, Army-Navy, and others, but none combine the history (almost 100 meetings) and the annual significance (at least 1 team in the final top 10 every year since 1987, plus only 5 times since 1967 has the the OSU/Michigan game had no impact on the championship of the Big Ten. One team or both either finished first or were first or tied going into the game every year but 1999, 1994, 1987, 1985, and 1983. Plus, over those years, only once has either team had a losing record, OSU in 1988.) No other rivalry can claim this.
One thing fans of other rivalries always cite as a reason this one isn't the best is that it is rather uneven. Michigan does lead the series 55-35-6, but the Wolverines lead 13-0-2 before the 1919 game, and 19-3-2 before the 1928 game. Ohio State's only wins came during the 1919-1921 games. Taking out those first 24 games, the series is Michigan 36, Ohio State 32, 4 ties. It has remained pretty even throughout the time since 1928, when OSU finally started fielding nationally recognized teams.
Michigan has won 795 games in its history (1st overall in NCAA history), and Ohio State has won 717 (7th overall). Ohio State has had 6 Heisman trophy winners, Michigan 3. Between them, the Bucks and Wolves went to 13 consecutive Rose Bowls between 1968-1980 (1969-1981 Rose Bowls). Since 1967, only once (1987) has neither Ohio State nor Michigan finished either first of second in the Big Ten.
How's THIS for amazing? Since World War II (1945), Ohio State has won 421 games (421-144-20). Michigan has won 423! (423-154-15). Can't get much closer than that! Ohio State is 6th overall during that span, while Michigan is tied for 7th with Tennessee and Notre Dame. Since 1960, OSU has a (326-99-10) record-- 4th overall. UM's record is (324-109-10)-- 5th overall. Since 1989, OSU and Michigan have 93 wins apiece. Both are 7th over that span. Pick any period of time between 1900 and 1998 and Ohio State and Michigan are both in the top 10 overall of wins. Amazing. Compare the 20th century win total of OSU and Michigan (671+ 695= 1366) to those of Florida and Florida State (545+ 369= 914) or Alabama and Auburn (713+ 579= 1292) or Army and Navy (579+ 506= 1085), and tell me what the greatest rivalry of the 20th century is.[/quote:2e267]
check and mate....
also, if you knew anything about sports in general you wouldnt have to ask such a pitiful question. |
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Master Sergeant
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11-14-2005, 03:50 PM
[quote="Sgt>Stackem":e3eef]...and tell me what the greatest rivalry of the 20th century is.[/quote:e3eef]
Alabama-Auburn.
braggin' rights over kin folk at Thanksgiving, Christmas, and over fellow employees every day of the year > a Big 10 title
SEC > Big 10
Crimson and White > Blue and Yellow
Crimson Red Helmets with White Stripe > Blue helmet with ugly yellow stuff on it
Even Auburn's ugly dang helmets > Blue helmet with ugly yellow stuff on it
Joe Namath > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State
Bo Jackson > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State
Anybody that ever played at Alabama or Auburn > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State
Bear Bryant > Woody Hayes or anybody that ever coached at Michigan or Ohio State
Alabama women > Michigan or Ohio women
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General of the Army
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11-14-2005, 04:01 PM
Lets see
Joe Namath 13 year career
27663 Yds Passing
173 TDs
220 INTs
1 superbowl(1 mvp)
Tom Brady in 4 1/2 years of starting
16485 Yds Passing
111 TDs
58 INTs
3 Superbowls(2 MVPs)
Ps its Maize and Blue biggrin:
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Master Sergeant
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11-14-2005, 04:23 PM
Joe Namath > Tom Brady
New England Patriots > New York Jets
Number of girls Broadway Joe has had > Number of girls Tom Brady could ever get
Number of bad knees on Joe Willie > number of bad knees on Tom Brady
Number of pictures of Joe in a big gay looking (but apparently stylish at the time) fur coat > Number of pictures Tom Brady in fur coat
Namath's nose > Tom Brady's nose
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Chief of Staff General
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11-14-2005, 05:02 PM
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I doubt it's the best rivalry in sports...since no one should give a shit about Michigan because Blue sucks.
You'd know that you'd believe that a sport that doens't welcome any teams besides American college teams would be your choice for best rivalry.
Id say Yankees-Red Sox is the longest and has the most hatred.
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truthfully, i dont think anyone cares to know what a kid from Canada thinks about American sports rivalries, period.
The big house is an amazing place to see a game, 110 thousand ppl...quite a site. Although i am a die hard Illini fan, we havent been competitive in football for quite some time. I definately hate ohio state the most though.
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Baseball is not all American...and I wish that some American players were nice fellows like Larry Walker and not cocksuckers like so many.
Im almost certain there is a toronto team in the MLB. |
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11-14-2005, 05:21 PM
sleeping:
yes those bluejay rivalries are huge....god just be quiet please.
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11-14-2005, 05:24 PM
well i just went to the mich/indiana "game" and it proved the fact indiana shouldn't have a football team. absolutely pitiful performance. michigan defense shut them down besides the game starting drive which I missed. hopefully i'll be able to get tickets to this game, as I went to the one 2 years ago and found it to be the 2nd best game ive been to at the big house  GO BLUE |
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Major General
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11-14-2005, 05:28 PM
i'll watch it....along with my PSU/Michigan St. game.
#4 in BCS rock:
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Chief of Staff General
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11-14-2005, 05:41 PM
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sleeping:
yes those bluejay rivalries are huge....god just be quiet please.
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I like to know we had easilly the second best team between 1990-present. Id say the 1998 Yankees were probably better.
Didn't take us fucking years between World Series either...we won it the next year.
I just just mentioning the bluejays because you're making it seem like Baseball is not known to Canadians. |
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11-14-2005, 09:44 PM
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Alabama-Auburn.
braggin' rights over kin folk at Thanksgiving, Christmas, and over fellow employees every day of the year > a Big 10 title
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LOL
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Joe Namath > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State
Bo Jackson > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State
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LMAO
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Anybody that ever played at Alabama or Auburn > anybody that ever played at Michigan or Ohio State
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ROFL
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Alabama women > Michigan or Ohio women
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Major General
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11-14-2005, 09:46 PM
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Why is it such a rivelry?
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check and mate....
also, if you knew anything about sports in general you wouldnt have to ask such a pitiful question.[/quote:07553]
You referring to me? |
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