[Unknown_Sniper]

Sadly lots of people up here drive while drunk, thankfully though there have been no accidents with kids from my school. I have yet to drive drunk on the road and dont plan on it. But I have hopped into random cars after parties where sometimes the driver has been drinking. You forget and it just happens after you've been drinking heavily for 6 hours.

[Tripper]

That sucks...Drunken drivers are a fucking scourge....

I agree with strvs...It's fucked up that alcohol causes all this death and destruction, and heartache - and yet it is LEGAL...! Marijuana, while probably half as common, still doesn't have ANY fatalities to answer for - You can't die from poisoning yourself with it, and you can't get an addiction to it like you can with alcohol...and yet it's illegal in most western countries.

Sad state of affairs...

[Stammer]

RIP

[Airborne Butters]

You can't blame this on alcahol soley. I mean the kid knew better then to drink and drive and so did the passengers. And as for pot, I personally remember about 3 or 4 accidents in HS that were caused by kids being too stoned, not to mention the people that have OD'd on other "recreational" drugs.

[Himmler]

Originally Posted by Tripper

That sucks...Drunken drivers are a fucking scourge....

I agree with strvs...It's fucked up that alcohol causes all this death and destruction, and heartache - and yet it is LEGAL...! Marijuana, while probably half as common, still doesn't have ANY fatalities to answer for - You can't die from poisoning yourself with it, and you can't get an addiction to it like you can with alcohol...and yet it's illegal in most western countries.

Sad state of affairs...

i dont know where you get your stats from, but i have heard of plenty stories of car wrecks due to a DUI while stoned

[Tripper]

[quote="Airborne Butters":03adb]You can't blame this on alcahol soley. I mean the kid knew better then to drink and drive and so did the passengers. And as for pot, I personally remember about 3 or 4 accidents in HS that were caused by kids being too stoned, not to mention the people that have OD'd on other "recreational" drugs.[/quote:03adb]

Driving too stoned has never caused an accident for me and 7 of my closest friends who have been smoking and driving for a good 5 years, and on open roads at 100kms/h....Those people would have been being stupid and not paying attention to the road, because that's really the only way to have an accident on the road when you're stoned...Unless it's your first session or something, and you're too busy reacting to the new feeling of being high to focus on the road....

...Otherwise as a guy who has been smoking for about 7 years, I say that it's total bullshit - Infact, I appeal that it makes me and most people I know that do it, a BETTER driver. I've never even come close to having an accident, and I'm a very cautious driver....It's probably the only time I drive exactly on the speed limit....

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by Himmler

i dont know where you get your stats from, but i have heard of plenty stories of car wrecks due to a DUI while stoned

Funny how it's never the people who smoke who claim that it happens....

Also, how can they test if the person was actually stoned when it happened?? For all they know, the guy smoked the night before.

[Unknown_Sniper]

you can usually tell when someone is high. I know people that smoke and drive all the time. Its the safest way to get high without getting caught and there has not once been an accident caused by the weed, just deer.

[c312]

but then again trip, you have to remember that tons of people drive drunk and get away with it everyday. There are alout more people driving while drunk than driving while stoned and because of that, you're going to read about an exponentially larger number of alcohol related crashes than marijuana related crashes.

[Himmler]

Originally Posted by Tripper

Funny how it's never the people who smoke who claim that it happens....

Also, how can they test if the person was actually stoned when it happened?? For all they know, the guy smoked the night before.

when have i said i've never smoked? i smoke weed alot..just dont brag about it. and i dont smoke when i have to drive cuz i know i wont be able to react good, and i have had a friend who totalled his car cuz we was stoned.

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by c312

but then again trip, you have to remember that tons of people drive drunk and get away with it everyday. There are alout more people driving while drunk than driving while stoned and because of that, you're going to read about an exponentially larger number of alcohol related crashes than marijuana related crashes.

Nah, because there are laws against driving drunk, and they can pull you over, test you and also arrest you for it - It's so much more well-known as a bad thing to do that alot of people don't do it because they know it's wrong both legally and morally...As they feel they're not putting people at risk.
It's not like that with being stoned - All the people that smoke, that I know and hang out with smoke or have smoked weed, and most of them drive while stoned - It's not a big deal at all to people who smoke alot - unless of course they've had a bad experience.

There's no big socially declared problem, and no real way of testing for it, so alot of people do it without fear of being caught and most people don't feel as though they're even doing anything wrong, which there always is with driving drunk....So actually, you'd probably get a fair even amount of drunk drivers and stoned drivers.

[Scorpion -]M15F1T[-]

RIP

I dont know how anyone can even think of drinking and driving.
It might sound like I am hopping on the bandwagon but I really couldn't live with myself knowing I was even slightly responsible for killing 2 ppl.

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by Tripper

Driving too stoned has never caused an accident for me and 7 of my closest friends who have been smoking and driving for a good 5 years, and on open roads at 100kms/h....Those people would have been being stupid and not paying attention to the road, because that's really the only way to have an accident on the road when you're stoned...Unless it's your first session or something, and you're too busy reacting to the new feeling of being high to focus on the road....

...Otherwise as a guy who has been smoking for about 7 years, I say that it's total bullshit - Infact, I appeal that it makes me and most people I know that do it, a BETTER driver. I've never even come close to having an accident, and I'm a very cautious driver....It's probably the only time I drive exactly on the speed limit....

Trip, i'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. I say you and your friends actually have been lucky as opposed to being better drivers whilst high. Nothing can make you more intellectually brighter or more alert than being in a well rested normal state of mind.

Alcohol doesn't mix well with driving and thats a fact EVERYONE knows yet many disregard it. I've seen many sucessful people flush their life down the toilet because they killed someone while driving under the influence. Remember this.......the accident doesn't even have to be your fault. A guy runs a red light and slams into your car killing himself but you were the one under the influence? Doesn't matter, you're gonna pay dearly.

Simple fix: Just don't get behind the wheel or get in anyones car who is under the influence. On too many occasions to count, i was the one guy who drove the drunks home. I remember going to a party once with a girl and my buddy was drunk. he was going to get in my other friends car (who was drinking) and i stopped him. i forced him into my car (i can't babysit all my friends) and drove him home. well, the other knuckleheads got into an accident but only hit a street sign. My buddy thanked me the following morning.

[c312]

Originally Posted by Tripper

Nah, because there are laws against driving drunk, and they can pull you over, test you and also arrest you for it - It's so much more well-known as a bad thing to do that alot of people don't do it because they know it's wrong both legally and morally...As they feel they're not putting people at risk.
It's not like that with being stoned - All the people that smoke, that I know and hang out with smoke or have smoked weed, and most of them drive while stoned - It's not a big deal at all to people who smoke alot - unless of course they've had a bad experience.

There's no big socially declared problem, and no real way of testing for it, so alot of people do it without fear of being caught and most people don't feel as though they're even doing anything wrong, which there always is with driving drunk....So actually, you'd probably get a fair even amount of drunk drivers and stoned drivers.

I'm sure drunk drivers think they are good drivers while drunk too. And no, there are not as many stoned drivers as drunk drivers, there are thousands and thousands of drunk drivers on any given night. Marijuana is used much, much less than alcohol. And I wouldn't say that all drunk drivers know they are doing something wrong and doing it anyway. I think most drunk drivers think they can handle themselves and are therefore ok to drive, so they don't think they are doing anything wrong either, but then again, they have impaired judgement at that time.

Now I'm gonna go Machette on this thread and post a link with research. happy:

http://www.ukcia.org/research/DoseRelat ... rashes.pdf

[Poseidon]

I cant stand people that drink and drive. I wont even drink 1 pint. Its not that its too risky. I just will never get into the habbit of having a drink before driving.