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Originally Posted by tomxtr

I had a contractor working for me who served years ago in the Iraqi Replublican guard and who still has family in Bahgdad who would disagree with your sentiment that being without Saddam is something trivial.

I'm not sure if you're trying to imply that the Iraqi people are merely "untermenschen", to steal the term from the article, but it seems like you're saying the only way to control the masses in Iraq is through fear and dictatorship.

I would also like to point out that the majority of the left-wing, in this country at least, initially supported the war. Now, that it has become a bit messy, all they do is criticize. No one from the left is offering any constructive ideas about how to clean up the mess. This is the reason that they won't win the Presidency the next time around either.

I see what you are saying tomxtr. But this republican guard..were does his family live and are they alittle wealthy or middle class? From what I read in books from independent journalists to ones working for magazines such as the new yorker..they all say the same thing. Once the CPA came in and did their debaathification process many people lost jobs. Then water, electricity shortages made people grow angry. I know many people turned out for the elections and voted. But I really think America has to leave, Iraqis want the soliders gone, the soldiers themselves want to leave and many americans want to pull out.

No I am not implying that Iraq, now, needs a dictator. I know I build sentences strange..but that was not my intended message. Basically I was questioning how the new government will be able to control the sunnis, shia and the kurds all in one province.

And lastly, I was for the war like I said in that political belifs thread. I wanted to see Saddam gone and see Iraqis free from a tyrant. But somewhere along the roads America took a wrong turn in Iraq. You guys really undermined the capabilities of the insurgents. And can that last remark be used to describe if you speak out against your country you are unpatriotic..or am I just thinking things? The left wants america out of Iraq...thats it.

And Colonel if you don't agree with the statistics thats fine.