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03-30-2006, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Coleman
tripper, also another thing that c is trying to point out is that it should be higher than other flags yes... In other words, you can't put the confederate flag or your state flag above the national flag. I think he meant to say it that way than having a meaning of "The US is the best. We're bad ass. You can't be better than us."
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lol ya rly, he could have made that a bit clearer when we're talking about mexican and american flags without a mention of state flags...
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03-30-2006, 06:28 PM
I said the US flag should be flown, "higher than other flags on the same post or building" which I figured would naturally mean all flags, including state flags. Also, I'm pretty sure it was on the website I posted, but even so, I can see how I could have been more clear.
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03-30-2006, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by c312
I said the US flag should be flown, "higher than other flags on the same post or building" which I figured would naturally mean all flags, including state flags. Also, I'm pretty sure it was on the website I posted, but even so, I can see how I could have been more clear.
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What I got from your statement is that you were pissed off that mexicans were flying their flag higher than the American flag, and that that is very disrespectful and that the american flag, as a rule, should always fly higher than any other flag because it is of a higher respect and a higher regard....
Without directly referencing state flags, and instead another nation's flag, you're basically saying america and its flag is of a higher respect and regard than other countries - especially mexico.
It doesn't really matter at all, but I notice a few people around here get rubbed the wrong way by you for no obvious reasons. I'd say its to do with subtle stuff like that...
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03-30-2006, 07:25 PM
yeah, I can see I was being unclear, I should have made it more clear that in America, the rule is that the American flag is flown the higher than state, municipal, and corporate flags out of respect. ok, glad that was resolved. beer:
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03-30-2006, 07:40 PM
how many people had two flags on one pole anyway, are we talking thousands or a dozen? all i saw were people with an american flag, or a flag from some other country. you guys arent making a big deal out of a single person in a crowd who had two flags on one pole and was prolly not too keen on flag etiquette, are you?
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03-30-2006, 07:47 PM
no, they had changed the flag arrangement at a high school. Again, read my posts, I don't care that they did it, but it's funny that they did considering the irony.
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03-30-2006, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by c312
yeah, I can see I was being unclear, I should have made it more clear that in America, the rule is that the American flag is flown the higher than state, municipal, and corporate flags out of respect. ok, glad that was resolved. beer:
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03-30-2006, 08:18 PM
get a room you two biggrin:
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03-30-2006, 08:27 PM
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get a room you two biggrin:
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lols the_finger: happy:
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03-30-2006, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Acideyez
Also, I fucking hate how people who have never been to america bash it...
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I lived in Georgia for a short while. And why is it wrong for anyone to criticize anothers country? rolleyes:
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for once I wasn't talking about you.
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03-30-2006, 11:42 PM
That statement can easily be applied to any foreigner. Who were you implying it that towards then?
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03-31-2006, 02:58 PM
.......Immigrants are what America is made up of, what makes America unique, special. Immigrants are people from all over the world who come to America not to start trouble, but to start anew. People who are desperate for a new chance, a new life. How can we turn those people down, when each and every one of our ancestors was at one time an immigrant as well?(excluding those of you who of native american descent.)
The idiots that are against immigration are hyopcrits. They only care about themselves, and not about their fellow man. I myself am an immigrant, as well as my family. We came to America to get away from all the shit that was happening in Russia, to get away from Anti-Semitism.....to be able to live our lives the way we wanted.
Now as for illegal immigration, that is a different story. But regular immigration....there shouldn't even be a question as to whether we should allow it or not.
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03-31-2006, 04:03 PM
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.......Immigrants are what America is made up of, what makes America unique, special. Immigrants are people from all over the world who come to America not to start trouble, but to start anew. People who are desperate for a new chance, a new life. How can we turn those people down, when each and every one of our ancestors was at one time an immigrant as well?(excluding those of you who of native american descent.)
The idiots that are against immigration are hyopcrits. They only care about themselves, and not about their fellow man. I myself am an immigrant, as well as my family. We came to America to get away from all the shit that was happening in Russia, to get away from Anti-Semitism.....to be able to live our lives the way we wanted.
Now as for illegal immigration, that is a different story. But regular immigration....there shouldn't even be a question as to whether we should allow it or not.
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you're right about immigrants, but this issue is about illegal immigrants, it came up because of new legislation that would make illegal immigrants felons under federal law.
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03-31-2006, 04:24 PM
Nationalist need to die.
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03-31-2006, 05:11 PM
From those pictures I would say that these guys are doing more harm to their cause than good. I also think that they need to learn a little lesson in history themselves. Suppossedly the indians came across the Bering Strait from Asia. So who was here before them? Was it empty land? Or did they kill everybody that was here before and that population is lost to the sands of time? Who knows. Who cares. The "I was here first" argument is irrelevant at this point.
Immigration is what makes this country strong. IMHO, it is what makes this the best country in the world. We draw on cultural strengths from all over the world. And, usually the guy that has the balls to leave the comfort of home and come to America is going to be the same guy that makes a valuable contribution to society.
The problem with our southern border is that they are pouring over faster than they can be assimilated and that causes problems. As somebody said above, they are illegal. 'nuff said.
BTW - I'm not in favor of amnesty either. President Clinton already did that once. All it did was lead to an increase in guys sneaking over here, in hopes that we would do it again (that last part is only my opinion of why they are coming in increasing numbers)
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