[ninty]

yeah, true enough.

[c312]

Them being killed and kidnapped by Lebanese people coming into Israel is different than them being killed or captured while on a mission or something in Lebanon

[Eight Ace]

Originally Posted by c312

Them being killed and kidnapped by Lebanese people coming into Israel is different than them being killed or captured while on a mission or something in Lebanon

of course it is, but for people whose only agenda is anti Israeli/ anti America it's not
enough to claim "This only provides them justification to blow the shit out of anything
they please.", they also have to pretend that the fault and the aggression is entirely Israels... rolleyes:




good to see even some Arab countries have had a gutfull of hezbollah:


'Saudi Arabia, with Jordan, Egypt and several Persian Gulf states, chastised Hezbollah for “unexpected,
inappropriate and irresponsible acts” at an emergency Arab League summit meeting in Cairo on Saturday.

It is nearly unheard of for Arab officials to chastise an Arab group engaged in conflict with Israel,
especially as images of destruction by Israeli warplanes are beamed into Arab living rooms.
Normally under such circumstances, Arabs are not blamed, and condemnations of Israel are routine.

But the willingness of those governments to defy public opinion in their own countries underscores a
shift that is prompted by the growing influence of Iran and Shiite Muslims in Iraq and across the region.'

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/17/world/middleeast/17arab.html:7b46b]NYTimes article[/url:7b46b]

[Short Hand]

[quote="Eight Ace":f8522]

Originally Posted by c312

Them being killed and kidnapped by Lebanese people coming into Israel is different than them being killed or captured while on a mission or something in Lebanon

of course it is, but for people whose only agenda is anti Israeli/ anti America it's not
enough to claim "This only provides them justification to blow the shit out of anything
they please.", they also have to pretend that the fault and the aggression is entirely Israels... rolleyes:




good to see even some Arab countries have had a gutfull of hezbollah:


'Saudi Arabia, with Jordan, Egypt and several Persian Gulf states, chastised Hezbollah for “unexpected,
inappropriate and irresponsible acts” at an emergency Arab League summit meeting in Cairo on Saturday.

It is nearly unheard of for Arab officials to chastise an Arab group engaged in conflict with Israel,
especially as images of destruction by Israeli warplanes are beamed into Arab living rooms.
Normally under such circumstances, Arabs are not blamed, and condemnations of Israel are routine.

But the willingness of those governments to defy public opinion in their own countries underscores a
shift that is prompted by the growing influence of Iran and Shiite Muslims in Iraq and across the region.'

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/17/world/middleeast/17arab.html:f8522]NYTimes article[/url:f8522][/quote:f8522]


Ninty is not really anti America.... and to me NO side really has the moral high-ground in this conflict. BOTh sides are guilty of over reacting to events.

[ninty]

It's not like Israel hasn't done anything to stir the pot in the middle east, Ace.

I'm anti oppression, imperialism and zionist. I'm a traditional conservative. My bible is the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

Go figure, when the rest of the world is flying out their people from the Middle East the Brits decide to do another dunkirk & take them out by sea... the_finger:

[Machette]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3d4f89d2-168d-1 ... e2340.html

[Madmartagen]

I think that as long as Israel leaves after they kick the shit out of Hezbollah, they have a right to retaliate. The same with Hamas. Now that Hamas is in effect, a governing body, they have to take responsibility for what their factions do. One govt attacking another is an act of war. Israel may act heavy handed in many situations like shooting 32 hellfires down a street to knock out 1 kabob cart, but i think they have shown more restraint in this campaign than in previous ones. I think its sad that the population has to get caught up in this shit, but its not like this hasnt happened before. Also, arent these populations among the ones that dance and celebrate everytime fucked up shit happens? I'm more worried about how this conflict will spread out....

[Jin-Roh]

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/200 ... 94084.html

"Even more importantly, Israel wants to send a strong message to all its enemies, especially Iran, that the consequences of attacking the Jewish state will be unbearable."

Taunting Iran?

"European-led efforts to achieve a cease-fire appear unlikely to succeed in the near term because Israel's main ally, the United States, has given Israel a tacit green light to proceed and because Israel sees this as a decisive, make-or-break battle in its fight against radical Islamists out to destroy it."

Is it because Hezbollah are terrorists?

Israel plans to get out of Lebanon in a few weeks. If it lasts longer than a few months than I am sure another nation might get involved... and so on.

[gtboys34]

[quote="al jazeera":24e28]Hezbollah fire more than 100 missiles into Israel. One Israeli is killed in the town of Nahariya.[/quote:24e28]
the hell are they firing? aluminum tubes filled with yellow cake or something..

[Mr.Buttocks]

[quote=gtboys34]

Originally Posted by "al jazeera":9b4b4

Hezbollah fire more than 100 missiles into Israel. One Israeli is killed in the town of Nahariya.

the hell are they firing? aluminum tubes filled with yellow cake or something..[/quote:9b4b4]


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